evergruven
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whaddya like?
Hey, Groover.whaddya like?
That's my logic on going 4.5" and even at that size it's not like it's easy to pocket balls, it's what most tournaments use isn't it?its funny, everyone says hey lets do all this stuff to promote pool and one pocket.
then they try to get small tight pockets, so new players get discouraged and don't even begin to get interested.
when pockets were big and bad players could still make balls, pool rooms flourished.
now when i go to a room all the bad players are playing on the smaller tables which most have easy pockets and being smaller, balls are easy to make and pool is fun.
and the easy slop bar tables which used to not have so much play are full now.
i had my goldcrown rails extended to make a 4 1/4 pocketThe way the good mechanics make a Brunswick tighter with a deeper shelf similar to a Diamond is to add rail extensions. In other words wider rails.. I'm not sure if you can order them off the shelf for a GC but Penguin makes extended rails for Valleys. My neighbors have 4-1/8 Penguin extended rails on their Valleys that we play on.. People pay to Diamondize their Gold Crowns to make them play tougher. But similar to Valleys, the shelf will still be a little shorter so they will be easier. Diamonds play tougher because of the deeper shelf, has nothing to do with the pocket angle...
I agree. 4-1/2" is plenty tight for the average player, and that size is my favorite. I don't really care what the pros play on. They can play on 4 inchers if they like, although it would be boring seeing them miss so many shots...4.5 seems to be the sweet spot these days for onepocket.
The 4-1/8 pockets with extended rails actually makes a valley play decent IMO. Its more about that than the size of the pockets. 9ft not so much fun that size for me ..I agree. 4-1/2" is plenty tight for the average player, and that size is my favorite. I don't really care what the pros play on. They can play on 4 inchers if they like, although it would be boring seeing them miss so many shots...
What tickles me are the guys who constantly brag about how tight are the pockets they play on. It's as if it makes them a cut above-- a variation on how powerful their cars are, how much weight they can lift, or who has the biggest............ whatever...
I like to enjoy shooting one-pocket. 4-1/4" or 4-1/8" is too much work, and not a little frustrating.
think 4.25 should work fine in the dry air you'll have most days.I will say that 4.75+" pockets are too forgiving and gives one an inflated sense of achievement, although fun when trying to play the ghost. But pockets that are too large changes the game of one pocket.
I'm in the process of having my pockets reduced to 4.25"...I may hate them but I'm looking forward to it. The good news is that my cloth should/will play like new for many months so that will help, and if they play too tight I'll simply keep the balls polished .
I'll know more in a couple months.
Sorry Sheldon... I think I took out my embarrassing giggle after you gave me a laugh.Hey, Groover.
First, you want to specify how the pocket is to be measured.
Here's Diamond Billiards creator Greg Sullivan:
Diamond's standard is 4 1/2, the way Greg measures.