gulfportdoc
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I'd say that they were pretty evenly matched...
Francisco Bustamante vs Tony Chohan-One Pocket Action-June 16th-17th-18th
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A great event, much needed during these times. Tony showed his championship pedigree, but Busty held it together long enough to eek out the win. Probably Ray's most competitive money match ever. This format lends itself to fantastic finishes, and day three was certainly high drama. The tension was thick in the room, and both players were wearing the stress of the moment on their faces. There will be future matches, but these two titans are very evenly matched and we will see them again. Thanks to Buffalo and PoolactionTV for carrying the weight of the one pocket world this week.
As for the light attendance, I have always marveled at people who would rather play or watch amateurs gamble than watch the best in the world do their thing. While the match was going on, there were no fewer than six money games going on to compete and a lot of the locals bet on the rail and were sweating their investments. The place was packed all three nights, but all the tables were going and we had enough pros in the house to field an eight man tournament for sure. The event was a huge success for Buffalo and people from all over the south came in to ply their trade and gamble.
I was totally shocked that no one seem to accept the fact we are live in Pandemic Times. No masks. No distancing. No hand sanitizing. Breathing second hand smoke.
I know most of the participants are young. But virus doesnt know age. They are just looking for bodies to live in.
Stay safe BRLArm.
I know most of the participants are young. But virus doesnt know age. They are just looking for bodies to live in.
Stay safe BRLArm.
Dennis "Whitey" Young
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Watching this match, it occurred to me that it is like being in a class room. JJ has really stepped up his announcing, JJ the teacher, I must commend you on your excellent commentating, thanks! You make me proud of the initial reasons I voted for you for the HOF.
But, if I had a video of this match, I'd stop and go through these shots on my table, and coupled this with JJ commentary, wow how quickly could you learn this game. As JJ stated this match covered all aspects of game. Thanks to all that were involved in this presentation! Whitey
But, if I had a video of this match, I'd stop and go through these shots on my table, and coupled this with JJ commentary, wow how quickly could you learn this game. As JJ stated this match covered all aspects of game. Thanks to all that were involved in this presentation! Whitey
crabbcatjohn
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Everytime I see all that I think... " I see dead people"...lol
Dennis "Whitey" Young
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You can certainly see Busty might be the best banker in the world right now -- he absolutely swished so many tough banks!! I would like to see him battle Brumback -- but I believe Brumback would only play him full rack, and I'm not sure how much experience Busty has with full rack Banks. That would be an amazing match to watch -- are you listening Ray?
Steve, I would certainly agree. I viewed Brumback's 2020 DCC match vs. Thorpe, and he gave Thorpe all he could handle. When I watch Brumback bank his stroke is perfectly mirrored on each bank, incredible consistent. His stroke (although different) reminds me of Bugs videos on banks whereas his stroke is also consistent from bank to bank. Brumback, I believe he can bank with the best of them.
Full rack banks I think would fit Django just fine for he can do those multiple rail banks. But if Brumback has more experience in full rack that would be an advantage.
I am not sure many would want to tangle with Brumback in banks, for that is what he does. thanks, Whitey
Steve, I would certainly agree. I viewed Brumback's 2020 DCC match vs. Thorpe, and he gave Thorpe all he could handle. When I watch Brumback bank his stroke is perfectly mirrored on each bank, incredible consistent. His stroke (although different) reminds me of Bugs videos on banks whereas his stroke is also consistent from bank to bank. Brumback, I believe he can bank with the best of them.
Full rack banks I think would fit Django just fine for he can do those multiple rail banks. But if Brumback has more experience in full rack that would be an advantage.
I am not sure many would want to tangle with Brumback in banks, for that is what he does. thanks, Whitey
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Cory in dc
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I would think playing 15 ball rotation, which all the Filipinos came up playing, would be good training for playing full rack banks--lots of creative dealing with crowding on the table. Just a guess, though.
I wish I had the time to watch these marathon matches. Looks like an epic one!
when match ups are close anyone can win. after a couple good breaks the final outcome is swayed.
losing on your home court is worth noting.
negotiating good playing terms is the most important part, and one of them seems to always play under conditions that do not favor himself.
changing your style to exploit your opponents weaknesses and counter their strengths is the key in close match ups especially.
being in good physical shape for longer matches helps win.
i would never bet on tony because he fails on all four points
losing on your home court is worth noting.
negotiating good playing terms is the most important part, and one of them seems to always play under conditions that do not favor himself.
changing your style to exploit your opponents weaknesses and counter their strengths is the key in close match ups especially.
being in good physical shape for longer matches helps win.
i would never bet on tony because he fails on all four points
catkins
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seemed to me that the game when it was 18 18 was the decider it was a super long game and busty just got a huge momentum shift after winning it
Dennis "Whitey" Young
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Tony often made some incredible creative shots that also all to often ended up with his cb up against a ball, thus stopping what otherwise would of course been a run. He seemed incredibly unlucky in those instances, and it disguised his excellent play.
It was unfortunate he missed that game winning ball. What a nightmare for him.
He does take on the best, and they do not get much better than Django, we have to give him that. I have a lot of respect for Tony, and his game. Whitey
It was unfortunate he missed that game winning ball. What a nightmare for him.
He does take on the best, and they do not get much better than Django, we have to give him that. I have a lot of respect for Tony, and his game. Whitey
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Tobermory
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That was a great game. A few hours later I came back and watched the game when it was 22-21 where Busty got ahead 7-0 and Tony clawed his way back to a tie and then took the lead, but missed a very makeable rail shot to win the game and tie it up. Busty held on and finally won the game. Heartbreaker for Tony.
Tobermory
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I watched at least 15-20 of the games. It was notable to me that Tony was grinding in a way he didn't or wouldn't do when he played Filler. How many times in this match did Tony duck shots you thought he was going to take? JJ got it wrong many times predicting an offensive shot from Tony before Tony plays safe instead. The average game time against Filler was 11.6 minutes; against Filler, the average was over 30 minutes.
Busty is not Filler, they play differently, but the main factor in the time difference is that Tony played a tight game against Busty.
It all makes me wonder if Tony got his strategy against both players backwards. With Filler, perhaps the premier shooter in the world, he neglected a safety first strategy and tried to go toe to toe and out shoot Filler; against Busty, a great shooter to be sure but also one of the best movers, he tempered his offensive genius and tried to be patient and out move Busty. As I said when he played Filler, I would have liked to see him grind that one out and make Filler earn every ball. With Busty, I wish he had fired more.
Busty is not Filler, they play differently, but the main factor in the time difference is that Tony played a tight game against Busty.
It all makes me wonder if Tony got his strategy against both players backwards. With Filler, perhaps the premier shooter in the world, he neglected a safety first strategy and tried to go toe to toe and out shoot Filler; against Busty, a great shooter to be sure but also one of the best movers, he tempered his offensive genius and tried to be patient and out move Busty. As I said when he played Filler, I would have liked to see him grind that one out and make Filler earn every ball. With Busty, I wish he had fired more.
NH Steve
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I thought this was a very interesting stat -- Chohan won a strong majority of the longer games, and Busty won a strong majority of the quick games. If you were to flip around that one pivotal long game that Tony missed game ball, it would have been an even more dramatic difference!
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Dennis "Whitey" Young
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That is a good analysis for sure. I think one difference between the matches is the pressure. Filler playing for not much was certainly free wheeling and keep it going, and of course Tony did not put much pressure on him. But this match you could sense the pressure the players were under, their stroke, missing uncharacteristically, shape not there. But luckily that was only at a few instances.
I do think Filler would of got out more than either Tony or Busty did. A couple of things I noticed that Tony could improve upon; his first shot selection after pocketing a ball, and coming off a rail for position, especially off the foot rail. We seen quite a few times whereas his run ended because of this. But both players played excellent, any better and then no would want to play them.
Both players went after some high power shots, and the mustard came off the hot dog at times. But I expected this, and it adds to the enjoyment of watching these players.
I agree that Tony played a much more tactical. There sure was a lot of up table play, and especially the last day. thanks you have a great post!
I'd like to see Filler and Thorpe go at it in one pocket, I think that would be pretty even, but not sure for Thorpe has won DCC twice lately. Whitey
cincy_kid
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Yea I would like to see filler play some other 5-10 ranked pros...
Svb...jhall...smith..thorpe..lunda....etc
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catkins
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I was not disjointed in either player here I think that tony and busty are super close and always a blast to watch and seem to both play there hardest against each other. Thanks for getting this match together it was truly a pleasure to watch
Terry Hanna
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Started 5PM Central today!!!
Rebroadcast of the thrilling three day One Pocket match from Tony Chohan vs Francisco Bustamante.
Three days of World Class One Pocket from two great players.
Jeremy Jones is doing some great commentary along with special guest Josh Roberts.
Everybody that bought an event pass & all current premium members have access for no additional fee.
This match is playing on the LIVE CHANNEL.
The replay is available to purchase at www.PoolActionTV.com
Rebroadcast of the thrilling three day One Pocket match from Tony Chohan vs Francisco Bustamante.
Three days of World Class One Pocket from two great players.
Jeremy Jones is doing some great commentary along with special guest Josh Roberts.
Everybody that bought an event pass & all current premium members have access for no additional fee.
This match is playing on the LIVE CHANNEL.
The replay is available to purchase at www.PoolActionTV.com
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