Derby 2022

LCharles

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Just FYI Did yall see 60 Minutes is doing a TV show; filming it at Derby? You can read about it on AZ forum entitled 2022 DCC discussion thread, then post 277 by Jay Helfert.
 

BRLongArm

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From ones to watch in 2022

1. Joshua Filler: T-7 at DCC
2. Roland Garcia: T-10 at DCC
3. Devin Poteet: Did not compete
4. John Morra: Did not cash, 4th in banks in DCC
5. James Aranas: Did not compete
6. Fedor Gorst: Final 3 and counting in DCC, 1st in banks in DCC
 

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The Miller Report - Part 1

The Beginning. Took off early last Thursday afternoon. Feeling ok (not necessarily good but not at all bad) about my game, been hitting balls regularly, let’s see how thing go…. It was really, really, cold. Don’t know what the windchill was but wouldn’t be surprised if it was below zero. Figured even the most chickenshit of cops would be in no hurry to write any tickets given the climatic conditions and must have been right because the Chevy Spark set a land speed record from East St. Louis to Louisville – right at 3 hours (and that includes stopping once for gas).

Check into the hotel. They try to sell you Wi-Fi access for an additional $15/day that you don’t need – my phone’s Verizon network worked fine. By the time all the vague taxes and fees are added in, the “DCC Rate” comes in at about $135/night. Overall, hotel is a really nice place – what you’d expect, bed is comfortable, however, water temperature in the tub was either scalding hot or ice cold – took longer to get the temperature adjusted than to shower….

Thursday Evening. Wait in line about 20 minutes to get my players pass (paid ahead of time $160 for banks, $160 for one pocket). Immediately head upstairs, hit some banks with a guy who let me practice with him, hop on the adjacent table the second it becomes open. Tables playing lighting fast, balls are slick, etc. End up playing a set with Crabb Man – get beat (words cannot express how much it pains me to utter and admit to this). Tag out and Rowsey hops in the grease. Walk around the main tournament room and casino. Place a $20 bet for Blues to win the Stanley Cup at 25:1. See Jerry (Baby Huey) and Daniel (povpool) – catch up, chat for a while, ask about Hendy and DaBarber, etc. Ultimately end up at the bar with Brumback and a couple of his buddies.

An Interlude About Covid and Food. For those interested, Covid protocols were non-existent. No temperature taken to get in, very few people wearing masks, etc. Only places to eat that were open (the other venues closed supposedly because of Covid) included Jack Binion’s Steakhouse (reservation required) and in the food court: (1) the Mexican place, and (2) the “homestyle” cafeteria. The food was horrible. I brought some crackers, pop tarts, and capri suns with me and I’m glad I did. From the cafeteria I ordered brisket and it was basically two chunks of fat, soaking in grease, with a thin strip of meat running down the middle. From the Mexican place, I ordered a taco plate. The pulled chicken looked the best so that is what I ordered – there were chunks of it that were hard and that couldn’t be chewed. Words cannot express how horrible the food court grub was. At the main bar, they were doing this weird thing where you had to get in a line for a drink, but yet the bar itself and all the stools were open – really bizarre. More about Jack Binion’s on Saturday. Back to Covid….I think that if you walked into that building you were immediately exposed to virus. People were packed in there. It’s a personal decision, and for what it’s worth, here’s the logic behind mine: I have been vaccinated, boostered, and pretty sure my entire household had Omicron (but since the government can’t seem to unfuck itself, never did get tested because there were no tests). In short, think I’m about as protected and antibodied as much as possible, don’t have any of the underlying concerns, and it’s simply inevitable to be exposed at this point regardless (once again, just my thinking and mine alone).

Friday. Wake up from a good night’s sleep and get downstairs for the draw. Draw Naoyuki Oi (if you don’t know, see Japanese Pool Player Naoyuki Oi GO HOME! HAPPPPY! INTERVIEW COMPILATION - YouTube and Naoyuki Oi DANCES during interview at 2021 World Cup of Pool - YouTube). Well, this is obviously pretty cool…. Play my match around 3:00 or so. Get beat 3-0. It’s not that Oi played lights out, I was just kinda lost – everything speed wise was ½ diamond short or 1-½ diamonds long. Last rack I did have a four-ball run, so there’s that…. Didn’t buy back in. Go to the sportsbook, pick the Blues to win over Kraken – book a winner. End up rotating most of the evening between the bar, main tournament room, and the action room (with the Players Club crew from STL). Not necessarily relegated to Friday evening, saw various 1p.org members throughout the trip: kollegedave, youngstowndad, lfigueroa, DWS, #cruncher, johnnytronic, brlongarm, Tin Man, NH Steve, Incardona, Brumback, povpool, Baby Huey, crabbcatjohn, southavenrecreationcenter, Johhny Willis, shw….and I’m sure several are being forgotten….somehow missed Sandra (sorry Fanatic)…. Hit the rack pretty late and not feeling much pain.

Saturday. Saturday was my recovery and venue day. Sweated several good matches (Louis Demarco and Mike Pankoff come to mind), checked out all the vendors, hung out some with Buster, looked at numerous cues/cases/etc. Shook his hand, thanked him, and chatted with Greg Sullivan for a couple of minutes. Said he’s retired, maintains 51% control of Diamond Billiards, and pointed out the gentleman he has running his company. He’s a very polite and humble man. (Little disappointed in another Diamond Billiards related matter – more about that later.) Picked up a dozen Accu-Stats DVDs. Got a reservation for a bar seat (getting a table was laughable) at Binion’s Steakhouse. After a couple days of shit food, the prime rib and loaded baked potato hit the spot. Rolled my Blues winnings into San Francisco over Green Bay – booked a very nice upset winner. Went to bed “early,” read a George Higgins book, “Digger’s Game” in a single sitting.

Sunday. Sleep in. Hurry to get downstairs for the one pocket draw. I’m a TBD. Roll my San Francisco winnings into the Blues over Vancouver – book another winner. 3:00 comes, TBD. 5:00 comes, TBD. Check in at the tourney desk, find out I play Monday at Noon. Sweat kollegedave and lfigueroa matches. We inevitably end up at the bar. Lou introduces me to Bobby Chamberlain – interesting guy. About the time I figured out that my match wasn’t until the following day, I had a head start, so was the first to turn in.
No worries, I missed a lot of people myself…mostly stayed in the casino, bar or accu-stats arena. The table pockets were HUGE and I noticed that myself while I was there. I can agree the casino is God awful and the food was worse! Even the steakhouse was meh. I also needed 100 Caesars drinks to equal the 1 normal drink that I’d usually get at a regular bar…talk about watered down lol. Still I have to say it was fun for my first time and I’m glad I got to see it in person. Definitely going back regardless of the venue but next time I’ll play it. I Thought it was a lot more expensive to enter but I did just want to have a good time and absorb it all in. I would have loved to meet our members but I don’t know what most of you all look like 😂 Before next year’s event I’m asking for recent photos lol
 
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Fedor Gorst on his way to potentially sweeping the traditional all-around! He takes down Josh Roberts in the One Pocket final 3-1. Nice tournament for Josh anyway, and good follow-up to his win last month!
 

cincy_kid

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Would like to ask this again
Anyone know the cost to just be a spectator for the whole event
This is on their website Larry if accurate. I've never gone and not played so not 100%. If you pay the $160 entry to compete or whatever it is... you get a badge and get free admission basically after that.

9 DAY EVENT PASS​

VIP $185.00
VIP TV $240.00

3 DAY VIP FINALS PASS​

Jan. 27th, Jan. 28th, and Jan. 29th
VIP $105.00

GENERAL ADMISSION $100.00​

DAILY ADMISSION AM​

General Admission $6.00
VIP $10.00

DAILY ADMISSION PM​

General Admission $9.00
VIP $15.00
Spouse wrist band $50 (must purchase player entry)
 

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This is on their website Larry if accurate. I've never gone and not played so not 100%. If you pay the $160 entry to compete or whatever it is... you get a badge and get free admission basically after that.

9 DAY EVENT PASS​

VIP $185.00
VIP TV $240.00

3 DAY VIP FINALS PASS​

Jan. 27th, Jan. 28th, and Jan. 29th
VIP $105.00

GENERAL ADMISSION $100.00​

DAILY ADMISSION AM​

General Admission $6.00
VIP $10.00

DAILY ADMISSION PM​

General Admission $9.00
VIP $15.00
Spouse wrist band $50 (must purchase player entry)
thanks cincy.... (y)
 

NH Steve

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This is on their website Larry if accurate. I've never gone and not played so not 100%. If you pay the $160 entry to compete or whatever it is... you get a badge and get free admission basically after that.

9 DAY EVENT PASS​

VIP $185.00
VIP TV $240.00

3 DAY VIP FINALS PASS​

Jan. 27th, Jan. 28th, and Jan. 29th
VIP $105.00

GENERAL ADMISSION $100.00​

DAILY ADMISSION AM​

General Admission $6.00
VIP $10.00

DAILY ADMISSION PM​

General Admission $9.00
VIP $15.00
Spouse wrist band $50 (must purchase player entry)
Yes, I believe Greg has stated specifically that he values players at every level playing in the tournament rather than simply being a spectator. So he has attempted to make it worth it just to play in the Banks for example, to get a player pass for the entire week, instead of the spectator pass. The other advantage to having a player pass is that any time a table is open, you can hop on and hit some balls. Just be mindful and respectful of matches that may still be going on next to you.
 

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Fedor Gorst on his way to potentially sweeping the traditional all-around! He takes down Josh Roberts in the One Pocket final 3-1. Nice tournament for Josh anyway, and good follow-up to his win last month!
Just looking at the completed matches, Fedor is undefeated through 6 rounds in the 9-ball, so he is well on his way...

I don't normally watch 9-ball but I might have to tune in this weekend to watch this unfold. No one has ever swept a major three event all-around tournament. A couple of players have won 2 of 3 -- including Mark Tadd in LA in I think 1992, who won Banks and 9-ball but lost in the One Pocket finals to Steve Cook. Since then I think Justin Hall has come close, and Alex and maybe Shane also at different major all around events.

But this year at DCC with Fedor looks like the best chance for that feat to be accomplished, for the first time in 60 years of all around events, featuring the greatest players over those 60 years!!! Yes, I will be following this, even though it is down to the 9-ball!!!
 

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Fedor Gorst on his way to potentially sweeping the traditional all-around! He takes down Josh Roberts in the One Pocket final 3-1. Nice tournament for Josh anyway, and good follow-up to his win last month!
Yeah, at this point he's almost a lock to take the all-around. It'd be wild if he won all 3 divisions!

It looks like in 9ball that some of the top names already have a loss: Deuel, Filler, Gorst, Pagulayan, Thorpe, and Van Boening. Some of the lesser knowns are climbing the ladder...
 

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Thanks for those, AtLarge! Great stuff.
Found these interesting.
Games won by breaker: 49%
Matches won by winner of lag: 38%

Yes, interesting stats. The break doesn’t appear to be worth much these days. I recall Billy/Danny saying on my old Accustats tapes that the break is worth 1.5-2 balls. Clearly not the case based on these stats (could be a sampling issue, though, as only 16 matches out of the maximum of 739 were analysed, ie just over 2%).

It would also be interesting to know how many times the breaker sold out on the break (a straight-in not a bank).
 

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As I interpret the DCC results it looks like the top 3 finishers in 9ball were Francisco Sanchez, Joshua Filler and Roland Garcia.
SVB knocked out Fedor Gorst in the 9th round.

Presumably Gorst won the "Master of the Table" with 261 points.
 
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