- Jun 24, 2004
If you're basing the eligibility on tin cups, then Cliff doesn't belong in the One-Pocket Hall of Fame. Sadly, there's quite a few players who get no recognition because they don't have tin cups. But when I look at the list of names on the One-Pocket Hall of Fame today, I see many that don't have any tin cups in one-pocket, some of whom I don't think I've ever seen win a one-pocket tournament, FWIW.Good to see you posting JAM. The old-time players could use some more attention, for sure.
Regarding eligibility, we have been going with the guideline of twenty years as a player of significance on the national scene. Shannon happened to be a precocious young player, who won his first major tournament more than 20 years ago at the age of 19, after already having a history as an action player when he was even younger. Cliff emerged a little later in my opinion. I know he did not win a major One Pocket event until 1994, several years after Shannon. Certainly both were in action before they won those. Obviously, Cliff developed into a great great One Pocket player deserving of HOF election. My point is simply to point out the time line.
I appreciate all the effort that you put into this prestigious event, Steve. My opinions are only that: my opinions. I realize the rules for induction will not satisfy everybody. That's for sure. It's the same way in pool tournaments. There will always be someone who thinks a rule is not a good one.
I just believe in my heart of hearts that Cliff Joyner, more than all the other names on that list for one-pocket, should be inducted, and that's why I logged in to cast my vote today. To not induct him, especially after seeing the names of those who have been inducted before him, is very sad to me. But I'm only one vote.
Thanks for creating the One-Pocket Hall of Fame, Steve. It has brought joy to many people. Tin cups, as most know, is not always a measuring stick for who's the best. Short races really don't mean much in the scheme of things.
I'm sure the most popular player in 2012 will win. That's the way it is, I guess.