I got sent up the river...

Tramp Steamer

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Just so you all know, I was banned today from AZB. I got three months off.
If you guys think this puts a stain on OnePocket.org, let me know and I'll hit the bricks. Thanks, Mike. :)
 

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Tramp Steamer said:
Just so you all know, I was banned today from AZB. I got three months off.
If you guys think this puts a stain on OnePocket.org, let me know and I'll hit the bricks. Thanks, Mike. :)
I was lied to, they said they would ban you for a year for the $1000 I sent them:p . Welcome back.

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Tramp Steamer said:
Just so you all know, I was banned today from AZB. I got three months off.
If you guys think this puts a stain on OnePocket.org, let me know and I'll hit the bricks. Thanks, Mike. :)


Don't feel pregnant. I got banned weeks ago from that black hole of a place. I'm suppose to be reinstated next week but I'll never make another post there. I might go in there and read about sh!t but that's it. One Pocket dot Org is where it's at. Coming over here and studying under Arties' teachings has totally turned my life arround and I will always be grateful. Like The Grateful Dead said-Truckin, Got My Chips Cashed In. Truckin Like A Doo Dah Man...........................................................

ps. My fav Artie quote was about dippy" Me no know. Me no tell. Me push button run like hell.............

pss. Who remembers the original joke that preceeded that famous line? One was about a motorcycle, and the other was about a little child ringing doorbells.
 

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Tramp Steamer said:
Just so you all know, I was banned today from AZB. I got three months off.
If you guys think this puts a stain on OnePocket.org, let me know and I'll hit the bricks. Thanks, Mike. :)


I'm kinda surprised to hear that, Tramp. What heinous crime did you commit?

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It's a long story. Three weeks or so ago, Wilson the moderator shows up on a post regarding a far Eastern case maker and informs everyone (all of AZB) they they are not members, but only guests. This rubs a bunch of folks a little raw, myself included, and especially the paid members, so ever since then I had been goading him about it, foolishly thinking he might offer up an apology. Anyway, that little deal probably put me number one on his shit list.
Yesterday, I got into a shouting match with a fellow from New Orleans, who we all know. This war of words was a continuation, really, from his and my brouhaha over CTE from some time ago. (I am anti-CTE). It began with a post from a guy who plays One Pocket with a Professional, thinking that the loss of money, and humiliation (his word) will make him a better player, and that he believes this strategy will eventually have him playing at a 10-speed level.
After trying to get some information from this guy, all the while thinking this has got to be a scam because no one thinks or operates this way, and offering a couple of suggestions, he turns on me. Then I get a little huffy, and before you know it the famous guy from New Orleans, and a couple of others pile on. They're telling me that I'm a heckler, a dream killer, and our friend from down south calls me a jerk. Well, I stand up an declare myself and the shit hits the fan.
Looking back I probably should have let it ride. If the post would have been about nine, or ten ball, I'm sure I would have.
Wison might have thought this was a good opportunity to kill two birds with one stone to, so here I am. Thanks. :)

P.S. Now that I have a record, how am I ever going to get a job. Can I still vote?
 

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Tramp Steamer said:
It's a long story. Three weeks or so ago, Wilson the moderator shows up on a post regarding a far Eastern case maker and informs everyone (all of AZB) they they are not members, but only guests. This rubs a bunch of folks a little raw, myself included, and especially the paid members, so ever since then I had been goading him about it, foolishly thinking he might offer up an apology. Anyway, that little deal probably put me number one on his shit list.
Yesterday, I got into a shouting match with a fellow from New Orleans, who we all know. This war of words was a continuation, really, from his and my brouhaha over CTE from some time ago. (I am anti-CTE). It began with a post from a guy who plays One Pocket with a Professional, thinking that the loss of money, and humiliation (his word) will make him a better player, and that he believes this strategy will eventually have him playing at a 10-speed level.
After trying to get some information from this guy, all the while thinking this has got to be a scam because no one thinks or operates this way, and offering a couple of suggestions, he turns on me. Then I get a little huffy, and before you know it the famous guy from New Orleans, and a couple of others pile on. They're telling me that I'm a heckler, a dream killer, and our friend from down south calls me a jerk. Well, I stand up an declare myself and the shit hits the fan.
Looking back I probably should have let it ride. If the post would have been about nine, or ten ball, I'm sure I would have.
Wison might have thought this was a good opportunity to kill two birds with one stone to, so here I am. Thanks. :)

P.S. Now that I have a record, how am I ever going to get a job. Can I still vote?



Yes I will allow you to go ahead and vote but first you need to tell me who you intend to vote for, otherwise Wilson will have it disqualified. I also criticized that cti or whatever stupid thing they call that aiming thing. While doing so I used one swear word, yes the f word, and the next day when I went to read new posts it merely said that I had been banned for 90 days for making abusive posts period.. I also had gotten banned from other places but I deserved those. The Az ban was totally unwarranted.

Oh no . The latest word is Congressman Antoney Weiner has decided to step down. Hey Tramp . Do you want to do some sexting on line now that we are both barred from the mighty AZ? Maybe not
 

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IMO, the thing that truly put the bullseye on your back was the comment about looking forward to a few flamewars this summer. Whether you made the comment in jest or not, it forced them to react.
 

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mosconiac said:
IMO, the thing that truly put the bullseye on your back was the comment about looking forward to a few flamewars this summer. Whether you made the comment in jest or not, it forced them to react.

It actually was in jest, although I don't think it forced them do anything other than use it as an excuse.
Let me be clear. I went overboard on this thing, true enough, but there are others over there who get blind eyes.
I'm not whining, mind you, I just didn't want you folks thinking I was a troublemaker. :)
 
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Tramp Steamer said:
It's a long story. Three weeks or so ago, Wilson the moderator shows up on a post regarding a far Eastern case maker and informs everyone (all of AZB) they they are not members, but only guests. This rubs a bunch of folks a little raw, myself included, and especially the paid members, so ever since then I had been goading him about it, foolishly thinking he might offer up an apology. Anyway, that little deal probably put me number one on his shit list.
Yesterday, I got into a shouting match with a fellow from New Orleans, who we all know. This war of words was a continuation, really, from his and my brouhaha over CTE from some time ago. (I am anti-CTE). It began with a post from a guy who plays One Pocket with a Professional, thinking that the loss of money, and humiliation (his word) will make him a better player, and that he believes this strategy will eventually have him playing at a 10-speed level.
After trying to get some information from this guy, all the while thinking this has got to be a scam because no one thinks or operates this way, and offering a couple of suggestions, he turns on me. Then I get a little huffy, and before you know it the famous guy from New Orleans, and a couple of others pile on. They're telling me that I'm a heckler, a dream killer, and our friend from down south calls me a jerk. Well, I stand up an declare myself and the shit hits the fan.
Looking back I probably should have let it ride. If the post would have been about nine, or ten ball, I'm sure I would have.
Wison might have thought this was a good opportunity to kill two birds with one stone to, so here I am. Thanks. :)

P.S. Now that I have a record, how am I ever going to get a job. Can I still vote?

Its good to know I'm not the only "anti-CTEer"...I have crossed swords more than once with Mr "dictator" Wilson. Usually over flame wars with ASS people, (Aiming System Supporters)...but sometimes with guys like Eddie Wheat, and the "far eastern case maker",AKA, John Barton, and Mike Janis, when he senselessly attacked Mark Griffin.
Wilson defended them vigorously, but I think the higher ups on the AZ site, may not have agreed...Both Wheat and Jarvis, recieved a lifetime ban..which even further tweaked Wilson's anti-SJD stance.

I rarely post over there any more. As you may have noticed, it seems I have found a full time "flame war" over here...:rolleyes:.... If he's not careful, I may get him banned from 1P.org. I do have connections you know...:eek: :D

PS..Their loss is our gain, Trampster...:)
 
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fred bentivegna said:
...what were your crimes?

Beard
here's the thread that led to his demise....

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=234623

Myself, I never saw anything funny or weird about the guys question..:) just a guy asking a question about "am I a sucker for playing champs and losing to them" he felt that him playing champs and losing to them, was more or less the same thing as paying for lessons. I don't see anything in the many responses he gave, that led to me thinking he was pulling all of our legs about the question.:D:eek:

I also think the comment from the Mod over there about people being "guests" was more trying to get a point across that those guys pay the bills, it's their forum and the users don't run the show and tell them how to run their forums. I think it was taken out of context, but it would probably be in their best interest to at least address it and apologize if it came out wrong...

That's surely not what the owners Mike and Jerry think... They realize that the forum users are very important to them. After all, the users that post legitimate content is what makes up a forum and what gives it the appeal for new people to come aboard and new sponsors to pay. At the same time... some of the users there, give the impression that the users of the board should be able to decide all the rules. That AZB is their forum.

I just get that feeling a lot over there.. of people that think they should run the forum this way or that way, how it's unfair to do this or that.. It is crystal clear to me, as it is here in this forum.. that the owners of the forum, the people that do all the work of maintaining it, the ones that pay for the domain name and the high cost of someone to host their website, that THEY are the ones that decide the rules and THEY decide if they want someone there or not. Now as a user, I can offer my opinion, I can offer my suggestions, but that's it. I can't EXPECT anything. It's not my forum. Everyone has the right and ability to go buy a domain name and pay someone to host their domain and run their forum any way they wish. The can ban people, they can make 400 forums and subforums... anything their little heart desires.

I just never understood the people that come on a free forum, they post back and forth.. and now they should have the right to tell the guys that pay for the forum, that own the forum, how they should run the show.. what isn't fair, what is fair. Some of the people are people that actually lend nothing to the forum. They post jokes, or they rag on other users, just start trouble all the time. They never actually post anything of substance. It's funny:D

Obviously, there are many different level of users and what importance they bring to a forum. Some users have not worth to a forum, others have a lot and then lots of levels in between. So a forum owner, might put more thought into something a valuable user asked of him, then someone who brings nothing of value to his forum.

I'm also with mosconic... I think the comment near the end of that thread that mentioned that he was bored and maybe some flame wars might help kill the time, probably didn't sit to well with Wilson, give the escalation of barbing going back and forth between Joey and Tramp.

On a funny note.... Steve's probably thinking.... great.. Everyone that gets banned from AZ and needs a forum fix, comes over here... not that we were good enough to come here BEFORE they got banned, but now I guess it's all they got, so NOW we're worthy of their presence. hehe... just something funny I was thinking of... Onepocket.org is like the Cuban Mariel Boatlift :D Tramp and Jimmy, this is not directed at you.. it's a general observation from a few years of noticing it.

{thinking to myself.... god man.. can't you ever just write 3 lines and shut your pie hole?"... whats up with that?}
 
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CaliRed said:
here's the thread that led to his demise....

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=234623

Myself, I never saw anything funny or weird about the guys question..:) just a guy asking a question about "am I a sucker for playing champs and losing to them" he felt that him playing champs and losing to them, was more or less the same thing as paying for lessons. I don't see anything in the many responses he gave, that led to me thinking he was pulling all of our legs about the question.:D:eek:

I also think the comment from the Mod over there about people being "guests" was more trying to get a point across that those guys pay the bills, it's their forum and the users don't run the show and tell them how to run their forums. I think it was taken out of context, but it would probably be in their best interest to at least address it and apologize if it came out wrong...

That's surely not what the owners Mike and Jerry think... They realize that the forum users are very important to them. After all, the users that post legitimate content is what makes up a forum and what gives it the appeal for new people to come aboard and new sponsors to pay. At the same time... some of the users there, give the impression that the users of the board should be able to decide all the rules. That AZB is their forum.

I just get that feeling a lot over there.. of people that think they should run the forum this way or that way, how it's unfair to do this or that.. It is crystal clear to me, as it is here in this forum.. that the owners of the forum, the people that do all the work of maintaining it, the ones that pay for the domain name and the high cost of someone to host their website, that THEY are the ones that decide the rules and THEY decide if they want someone there or not. Now as a user, I can offer my opinion, I can offer my suggestions, but that's it. I can't EXPECT anything. It's not my forum. Everyone has the right and ability to go buy a domain name and pay someone to host their domain and run their forum any way they wish. The can ban people, they can make 400 forums and subforums... anything their little heart desires.

I just never understood the people that come on a free forum, they post back and forth.. and now they should have the right to tell the guys that pay for the forum, that own the forum, how they should run the show.. what isn't fair, what is fair. Some of the people are people that actually lend nothing to the forum. They post jokes, or they rag on other users, just start trouble all the time. They never actually post anything of substance. It's funny:D

Obviously, there are many different level of users and what importance they bring to a forum. Some users have not worth to a forum, others have a lot and then lots of levels in between. So a forum owner, might put more thought into something a valuable user asked of him, then someone who brings nothing of value to his forum.

I'm also with mosconic... I think the comment near the end of that thread that mentioned that he was bored and maybe some flame wars might help kill the time, probably didn't sit to well with Wilson, give the escalation of barbing going back and forth between Joey and Tramp.

On a funny note.... Steve's probably thinking.... great.. Everyone that gets banned from AZ and needs a forum fix, comes over here... not that we were good enough to come here BEFORE they got banned, but now I guess it's all they got, so NOW we're worthy of their presence. hehe... just something funny I was thinking of... Onepocket.org is like the Cuban Mariel Boatlift :D Tramp and Jimmy, this is not directed at you.. it's a general observation from a few years of noticing it.

{thinking to myself.... god man.. can't you ever just write 3 lines and shut your pie hole?"... whats up with that?}

I missed your point. I've been here since '09.
I take it that would be a no vote from you?
 
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Just wait 'til you're Artie's age.

Oh No Please. Don't blame it on age.;) I'm much older than Artie and I can't read the one pocket whisperer's manifestos. Nor have I ever made a rambling, redundant, repetitious, etc, etc.
Rod.
 

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Oh No Please. Don't blame it on age.;) I'm much older than Artie and I can't read the one pocket whisperer's manifestos. Nor have I ever made a rambling, redundant, repetitious, etc, etc.
Rod.

Well, age + experience + knowledge.

Notice how short my posts are? I'm only 63.
 

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Damn you, Tramp. Here I was, hoping that you'd put forth some entertaining posts since I got myself 6 months in their Banned slammer, and you just go ahead and screw that all up!

Oh well.. being accustomed to a small bar with a group of retired fogies, this place is easy to get used to. ;) Just like the small bar and old folks, sometimes there's a stretch of silence while somebody thinks of something new to say. :rolleyes:

I just wanna bank.. and hope that by the time I start playing 1P that I may actually have a weak grasp of the game. :eek:
 

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Tramp Steamer said:
I missed your point. I've been here since '09.
My points were, in order of rambling....

1. I talk about the guys thread that you ended up getting the boot in. Someone (was that you?.. I don't remember) had made a comment that they thought the poster has possibly been making up his questions for some reason or another. I was giving my opinion that I saw nothing to indicate that.

2. Then I talk about the whole "guest" comment that Wilson made and my interpretation of it.

3. Then I go on and on about my observations about how certain users over there, seem to think they should determine how that place is ran. I talk about this and that and this and that regarding that whole subject.

4. Then I point out that I agree with mosconiac's assessment that he thinks that you were banned, largely because of your it's a slow summer and lets have some flaming comment

5. Then ON A FUNNY NOTE: I develop a joke about Steve's site becoming the Mariel Boatlift of forums:D

So those were my points. I also wrote in there that you or Jimmy were not to take my post as being directed at you guys, because the two of you said in this thread that you both were banned from AZ at one point or another. My observations were based on several years worth of data. Not the last couple of weeks.

Yes.. I remember you being here before. I faintly remembered that I got the feeling like you weren't too keen on me... so I looked back and this post jogged my memory....

http://www.onepocket.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3681

Its where you were writing a farewell post.. apparently because Larry III had said something about something, that had rubbed you the wrong way and you said you didn't fit in here and was going to leave. I knew, before even reading it again, what I might have posted in it

But there was a bunch of people saying don't go, saying toughen up.. don't have such thin skin... then Ghost hijacked with some dude nudity, the thread got moved. :eek:

Then you said "Hey I'm back" , then I piped in that one of my pet peeves were the I"m leaving threads, then I said some things about helping you understand about the people here like to kid and such.... then offered to help you learn the WEI table.

Then you must have taken offense to the one sentence that I said Farewell threads are a pet peeve (which they are.. I"m not going to feel ashamed of it.. if you saw all the farewell threads I've seen over the past 15 years, you would understand) , then some more jokes were passed around, then Duck made the thread die. After that you didn't post for over a full year.

But you're back now and Dennis remembers you and we all welcome anyone that loves onepocket here. So welcome again and have some fun!

Maybe hanging out over at AZB has made you shed the thin skin, and now you're looking to mix it up some:D

Suggestion: (Don't mix it up with SJDinPHX.. he'll NEVER let up on you) Go for someone easy... like this user here called onepocket he doesn't say much here, so you can probably get away with flaming him some :)
 
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