V-Man,vapros said:I would kick sharply into the 8 ball. Off the long rail, with draw, hard enough to move it out of the area. Easy choice for me.
True enough V-Man, it depends on the rock stopping point but if it stays up too high for the bank it leaves the bank on the 6 into the 15, 13 or 5 and putting the rock up by the 1 ball.vapros said:You might be right, CD, but I had decided that shot wasn't there. Might depend on where the cb stops. It's very close. I don't know if Joyner shot it, but he's looking at it.
Don't forget, this is 16 years ago when Cliff was still Cliff. Hint: He pockets a ball from here.vapros said:I don't know if Joyner shot it, but he's looking at it.
Cowboy Dennis said:It's game 5 (playing best of 7) and they split the first four games. No score yet in this game and it's Cliff's shot. What would you do?
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The angle to bank the stripe 11 to billiard very thinly off the 8 towards Cliffs' pocket appears to be on, squatting whitey, leaving potential cover with 7, 10, 6 balls if the 11 does not drop.
At this relatively low speed, the greatest risk is maybe leaving the 8 ball over Strawberrys' pocket but more likely would pocket the 8, leaving Cliff in a strong position.
With the cue stopped dead on the rail there is minimal chance of leaving a bank on the 11 back to Strawberrys' pocket if the 11 did not go in Cliffs' pocket.
This may appear to be more risk laden, than say cutting in the 6 and taking your chances on where whitey would end up......but hey....this is Cliff in his prime, right?
I believe I would shoot the same.
Bernie.
Cowboy Dennis said:It's game 5 (playing best of 7) and they split the first four games. No score yet in this game and it's Cliff's shot. What would you do?
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Bill said:personally I'd cut the six ball but knowing Cliff fairly well - maybe he hits the 11 firm, full in its face with a bunch of follow. Cue ball gently hugs the rail and slides behind the 8 while pocketing the 11 two rails off the 5 ball. Innovation is the key ...
I think you're on to something here, bernie. CD wouldn't have put this shot up, if he just cut the 6 in. It had to be something a little more interesting then that That looks like a strong shot and I bet he made it too. That's why I like reading these threads and seeing all the different replies to what people would do and why, it opens up your mind and trains it to look for other possibilities, other then basic shots.bernie p said:The angle to bank the stripe 11 to billiard very thinly off the 8 towards Cliffs' pocket appears to be on, squatting whitey, leaving potential cover with 7, 10, 6 balls if the 11 does not drop.
At this relatively low speed, the greatest risk is maybe leaving the 8 ball over Strawberrys' pocket but more likely would pocket the 8, leaving Cliff in a strong position.
With the cue stopped dead on the rail there is minimal chance of leaving a bank on the 11 back to Strawberrys' pocket if the 11 did not go in Cliffs' pocket.
This may appear to be more risk laden, than say cutting in the 6 and taking your chances on where whitey would end up......but hey....this is Cliff in his prime, right?
I believe I would shoot the same.
Bernie.
wincardona said:I like Bernies shot or cutting the 6 ball. If Cliff feels that he has a good look at the 6 ball he may choose that shot but banking the 11 ball and playing the billiard on the 8 ball is a strong shot. It looks to me in order to play that shot you have to cut the 11 ball fairly thin sending it toward the 7 ball. Too heavy of a hit on the 11 ball will result in a kiss something Cliff can't afford. With the 11 ball going toward the 7 ball good and bad things can happen but if he can't play the 6 ball he'll have to play Bernies shot and gamble.
Billy I.
Good eye Bernie, you win a cookie. Cliff got quite a break by making the 11 because the 8 came up and hit the cueball selling out a shot.bernie p said:The angle to bank the stripe 11 to billiard very thinly off the 8 towards Cliffs' pocket appears to be on, squatting whitey, leaving potential cover with 7, 10, 6 balls if the 11 does not drop.
At this relatively low speed, the greatest risk is maybe leaving the 8 ball over Strawberrys' pocket but more likely would pocket the 8, leaving Cliff in a strong position.
With the cue stopped dead on the rail there is minimal chance of leaving a bank on the 11 back to Strawberrys' pocket if the 11 did not go in Cliffs' pocket.
This may appear to be more risk laden, than say cutting in the 6 and taking your chances on where whitey would end up......but hey....this is Cliff in his prime, right?
I believe I would shoot the same.
Bernie.