Practice with Purpose Part 1

bstroud

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Loy,

You are correct I practice a lot of Straight Pool. However, and this may seem strange, when I practice 9 ball it is mainly for my straight pool game.

Straight pool teaches you so many things, running balls, positio, combos, caroms, ticking out balls but does not teach you to shoot the hard shots.
That was why Lassiter was so interesting to watch play straight.

He shot and made the really hard shots in straight when everyone else ducked.

Crane played the best straight I ever saw but when the shots got really tough he played safe. That's why he lost to Lassiter so many times.

My theory of practice evolved from watching Lassiter. He practiced another game to practice for the game he had in mind. I has worked for me and will work for others.

Some of the most interesting straight pool I ever saw was at Beanies'.
Miz had just won another championship and was playing Beanie 53 to 37 straight. He was not winning.

Taylor is not known for straight but could play it some. He played Beanie 50 to 37 and lost the first two games. The third game he ran some balls, played position for a cross side bank for a break shot and ran out.

After that it was a romp for Taylor. He had Beanie so week he could hardly get a ball to the pocket. It's just another lesson on how you practice one game for another It was a lesson well learned.

I had a rough day today. Playing my regular customer 10 to 5 and the break, I ran a 9, a 10, 3 8's and lost in the last game in a race to 7. It was the first time in 10 years I got to play on a gold crown instead of a Diamond. Even though I lost it was a pleasure to play on such a great table.

Bill Stroud
 

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Artie Bodendorfer said:
There is more and I will do it latter.

THe Rest Off dont practice and dont think. Next move dont eat or breath.

I do it to check thier credability. And thier knowledge and what the no. I want to no what the persons Crediability is. Because I want the truth. Because some off those players are my Friends and thier gone.

And some are in the hall off fame. If someone doesnt stick up for them and people can say what they want.

Then I her Oh be nice. Im a lot nicer then someone saying something about dead people that isnt true ans their not her to defend themselves.


Then I answer myself by this answer are they qualified or not. And what makes them qualified? And by what they say will give me the answer,

But just too make it clear this is not personal about what I am saying .Because I realy do not no Billy amd I have not seen him play. But I have seen him in person.

Nobody has said how he plays. I guess Freddy played him but he has not responded. To Billys 12 in a row beating.

And I am not doing this to agatate Freddy. I just want to her from the other side that plated him. To see if it is the way he said it and thirt has been no answer.

But nobody has said anything about the guy that clames he beat these people. Somebody thats alive must have seen him play.

But that does not make you no player.So I want everyone to understand .i am not trying to judge him or put him down. And to be honest he souncs like a real nice guy.

Billy Incardone said to be nice. Thats very easy too do. I dumby up and be nice and that would make me like Billy a nice guy.

The school I came from I learnd uts not nice too be too nice. And becarefull off people who are to nice.

Because they are the ones that can get you. And he was right. He said because the people you atre not nice with you dont have too worry about.

Its the nice ones you have to worry about. Some off the bigest and best guys are nice guys. Being nice is the way too be. How do we judge niceness because somebody talks nice or scts nice.

Thier are reasons for everything. And if people all say what the want then what.,Should we call this liers paridise. The truth has to come out.

Because without the truth we have nothing. And that is the bigest thing two people have trust and honesty. And if you are in the service and you dont trust the other soldier too do the correct thing what happines.


I want to clearify that when I read any post. I read it very carefully so I understand it. If something is not correct or the wrong statement. I say what I think off it. The can reply back on it and say why they think what they are saying is a correct statement or shot. or whatever I am disagreing


I will go to what I sont agree with and post it mnext to why i disagree and you can reply back.
 

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lfigueroa said:
Well, yeah, I agree with you. I'm always amazed by the players that come into the pool room and just sit around. There is so much to learn.

Lou Figueroa
I'm with you on that too. But you and I are both "working stiffs", Lou, and married too, so right off the top that doesn't leave nearly enough pool time.

Even worse than watching people squander their pool time (because they have so much more time to squander than I do), are those damn players that have so much natural ability, yet honest to God, they seem not to like the game at all -- it is just something that they happen to do well and they seem to almost grudgingly take advantage of if the opportunity is there to make money, but aside from the money, they appear to have no interest. They really piss me off -- especially when I lose to them :eek: :mad:
 

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14.1 is the very best game for cluster busting (with control) and all sorts of "in close" position and patterns, as well as caroms, combos and dead balls -- IMHO

(having last run more than my age back when I was about 40 or so...)
 

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NH Steve said:
Even worse than watching people squander their pool time (because they have so much more time to squander than I do), are those damn players that have so much natural ability, yet honest to God, they seem not to like the game at all -- it is just something that they happen to do well and they seem to almost grudgingly take advantage of if the opportunity is there to make money, but aside from the money, they appear to have no interest. They really piss me off -- especially when I lose to them :eek: :mad:
"Buster" Douglas hated boxing but did it to please his father, if I recall correctly. I've known several very good players like this Steve: Ricky Gracyk (sp.) comes to mind first. Fantastic player, couldn't care less about the game.

Dennis
 

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Cowboy Dennis said:
"Buster" Douglas hated boxing but did it to please his father, if I recall correctly. I've known several very good players like this Steve: Ricky Gracyk (sp.) comes to mind first. Fantastic player, couldn't care less about the game.

Dennis[/QUOTE

Tyson was a small favorite 47 to 1 I didnt get too manover it but it would ame been the biggest scalp in life


Nothing serious I could have layed 20 to 1 and got 47 too one.Just a scalp on 2 hundred thousand would have been 5 illion 4 hundred thousand and I couldnt have lost a nickle thats how smart the casinos were.

I will wrigjht the whole story when I get some one too wright it and then too put it in all the papers and everyone will see the truth what whappened and the things they did how out off line they were.

If some one hnowes a reporter or a big columist I will give them the story. And you can tell them it will be maybe the biggest story out off Vages. Mite even pass up the bugsy siegal story.

The true story about las veagas and the casinos gambling gaming commision and the federal goverment. And how the hustler got hustled by the goverment.

And violated him with a unlawfull law. Find the person to prent it and I will give them one off the greatest storyies ever told. Completly true.

maybe i should be nice too them for thier home invasion Robing me. I wish thier were about a half a million people on the site. I no Somebody would step up or get me some one who can get it done.
 

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Rodan was right in that some well known people in the pool scene were run off by some RSB regulars. Robert Byrne comes to mind, Pat Johnson made quick work of him. Richard Black, and Jerry Peachauer hung in for a while, but got tired of those out to make a name for themselves.


lfigueroa said:
That was not what killed RSB. FL and his multiple personalities AND the troupe of clowns that went after him killed RSB. The heat and general mayhem were the good parts :)

Lou Figueroa

I have seen it happen on other news groups, instead of filtering out the FLs they think they can win an argument with a lunatic. I did like to poke Sincerely Sam, though. . .

Brad
 

Artie Bodendorfer

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Cowboy Dennis said:
"Buster" Douglas hated boxing but did it to please his father, if I recall correctly. I've known several very good players like this Steve: Ricky Gracyk (sp.) comes to mind first. Fantastic player, couldn't care less about the game.

Dennis


You no budters father was dead when he fought
 

lfigueroa

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bstroud said:
Loy,

You are correct I practice a lot of Straight Pool. However, and this may seem strange, when I practice 9 ball it is mainly for my straight pool game.

Straight pool teaches you so many things, running balls, positio, combos, caroms, ticking out balls but does not teach you to shoot the hard shots.
That was why Lassiter was so interseting to watch play straight.

He shot and made the really hard shots in straight when everyone else ducked.

Crane played the best straight I ever saw but when the shots got really tough he played safe. That's why he lost to Lassiter so many times.

My theory of practice evolved from watching Lassiter. He practiced another game to practice for the game he had in mind. I has worked for me and will work for others.

Some of the most interesting straight pool I ever saw was at Beanies'.
Miz had just won another championship and was playing Beanie 53 to 37 straight. He was not winning.

Taylor is not known for straight but could play it some. He played Beanie 50 to 37 and lost the first two games. The third game he ran some balls, played position for a cross side bank for a break shot and ran out.

After that it was a romp for Taylor. He had Beanie so week he could hardly get a ball to the pocket. It's just another lesson on how you practice one game for another It was a lesson well learned.

I had a rough day today. Playing my regular customer 10 to 5 and the break, I ran a 9, a 10, 3 8's and lost in the last game in a race to 7. It was the first time in 10 years I got to play on a gold crown instead of a Diamond. Even though I lost it was a pleasure to play on such a great table.

Bill Stroud


Well, I do the same thing: occasionally practicing 9ball for my 14.1 for the same reasons. I think cross-training is important and that's why, when I get the chance, I like to play 3C and snooker too.

Lou Figueroa
 

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NH Steve said:
I'm with you on that too. But you and I are both "working stiffs", Lou, and married too, so right off the top that doesn't leave nearly enough pool time.

Even worse than watching people squander their pool time (because they have so much more time to squander than I do), are those damn players that have so much natural ability, yet honest to God, they seem not to like the game at all -- it is just something that they happen to do well and they seem to almost grudgingly take advantage of if the opportunity is there to make money, but aside from the money, they appear to have no interest. They really piss me off -- especially when I lose to them :eek: :mad:


Oh yeah. The naturals that play great without effort and would rather go out and play golf than pool. I hate them :)

Lou Figueroa
 

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Islandeddie said:
Rodan was right in that some well known people in the pool scene were run off by some RSB regulars. Robert Byrne comes to mind, Pat Johnson made quick work of him. Richard Black, and Jerry Peachauer hung in for a while, but got tired of those out to make a name for themselves.




I have seen it happen on other news groups, instead of filtering out the FLs they think they can win an argument with a lunatic. I did like to poke Sincerely Sam, though. . .

Brad


hmmmm, no. I don't recall that. I recall RB coming on the group briefly to hawk a new book and being called on that. It was the same for a number of "names" that would make one time appearances to promote something, or ask something, but would not participate. On RSB it didn't matter who you were -- it mattered what your ideas were and when a "name" said something stupid that they couldn't defend they were called on it, that's all.

I know some are more star struck than others (I'll never forget the guy at the DCC a few years ago who looked like he was going to wet his pants getting an autograph from Allison Fischer) but RSB was very egalitarian thataway. Here's something I wrote on all that 12 years ago:

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Perhaps the bitter truth is that these forums are rough and tumble. No ass
kissing, no deferential treatment. Your thoughts, opinions, belief (or
aiming) systems, stand or fall on their own merits or lack thereof. People
speak their mind, sometimes before engaging the brain-to-mouth connection.
The thin skinned need not apply. Maybe there are just too many fragile egos
out there that think the pearls cast before the swine (uh, that's us)
should be swallowed whole without contemplation. I recall a while back when
R. Byrne visited our little dysfunctional group to hawk his new book.
Certainly, if anyone deserves some deference for contributions to the sport,
it's Robert Byrne. But, I seem to recall that that didn't quite happen.
Well, love to have Bob here as a regular, but if he can't "hang," oh well,
don't let the cyber door hit you in the ass on the way out. Same for when
Jeanette Lee came on to bleat her case, or Grady came on to bemoan someone
posting his gambling activity. These folks aren't here day in, day out, to
mix it up with the regulars, participate in our discussions, and
occasionally take a little heat. When they visit, it frequently seems they
have specific agendas unrelated to "joining" or "participating" in RSB. Are
we spoiling it for ourselves? No. Just my 2 cents.
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Lou Figueroa
 
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stljohnny

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lfigueroa said:
This is so wrong, I wouldn't know were to start. But trust me -- 8Ball is *all* about 14.1.

Lou Figueroa

Well, okay, yeah - that's my goof. :eek:

I was caught up in focusing on the 1P/stack aspect of 14.1; thinking about 8-ball on a bb where the stack is sitting there in a giant mess; which doesn't come up too often.
 
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