- Dec 16, 2008
Offensively, take the glove off and put the 2 back to my right.Cowboy Dennis said:
I really didn't see that shot.Might work If you lay It down just right.Nobody's picked my shot yet,sad face.John B.lll said:
Larry,lll said:what about this as a safety??
john its ok to pick it apart and tell how stupid it is
hit softly to bunch the balls up
dont think id leave the 8 cross side or corner
Volunteering unasked to temporarily withdraw from layouts featuring your own matches and then Larry & I agreeing with your decision is not "getting scolded".John Brumback said:I only see one shot but I'm not allowed to say what I think yet.I got scolded the other day.hehe.John B.
John Brumback said:PS:maybe I should stay out of these for awhile.(the ones with me In them)
Cowboy Dennis said:Sounds like a good idea John. I think many don't want to contradict you if you post early in a thread and so they don't post at all. It was much the same way when Artie and/or Incardona posted early in a one-pocket thread. Some don't want to contradict the player and others aren't comfortable until they see other's opinions. Fortunately I've never suffered from either malady .
lll said:john i agree with dennis
let others have enough rope
its tough to contradict people with your credentials
you might want to comment on the weakness of some replies
before you give your opinion
think of yourself as the one we go to pilgrimage to hear the words of the LEARNED ONE
you and freddy
Great point Dennis! I should have mentioned that also.Thanks,John B.Cowboy Dennis said:Larry,
Balls are so valuable in banks that players don't normally risk a foul on a shot like that. It's also extremely easy to give up a shot there.
Banks said:Offensively, take the glove off and put the 2 back to my right.
A sell-out stiff.
Defensively, drive the 3 down to the cluster and sit the CB on top of the 2.
Diamonds are a little tougher to scratch on, given their pockets, so I'd go with the offensive shot.
That choice is stiffer than a 16 year old's Johnson Bar.
Freddy,fred bentivegna said:What I would do is first, move the most dangerous ball, the 3 ball, by going off the side of the 3 ball, making sure I miss the 2 ball and carom down to the foot rail and return the q ball to the head rail. The angle is there. About a 1/2 ball hit. Worst you will leave is a long straight back.
I think the 2 is too low to cut it into the 7 ball but it's still the other shot I would consider. The main goal on this shot is to get the rock back uptable and leave a long straight-back if anything, something the Gloved One didn't know to do.John Brumback said:My shot Is to thin off the 2 ball bump It Into the brown ball (ball beside side pocket) and two rail the cball back where It Is now.That was the first shot that came to mind for me.Bout a half a ball hit.Perfect angle for It.Might be about like Fred's.John B.
John unless you put the cue ball back exactly where you started from you will leave a cross side. A pretty good cut would be required but a cross side nonetheless. Thats why I opted to make sure I moved that ball before playing safe back to the head rail.John Brumback said:My shot Is to thin off the 2 ball bump It Into the brown ball (ball beside side pocket) and two rail the cball back where It Is now.That was the first shot that came to mind for me.Bout a half a ball hit.Perfect angle for It.Might be about like Fred's.John B.
I think we all agree that the only two balls that can be shot are the 2 & the 5. All a player has to do is decide which offers the best way to leave a long tough shot if not executed to perfection. I imagine we'd have to be at the table to decide for certain and this is the only pic (original layout) of the shot.fred bentivegna said:Yes, Dennis I meant the 5 ball if thats the closest ball to the cue ball.