Frost vs Alex - 1 Pocket Match on Monday for $40,000

JAM

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just to make it clear
alex won according to reports
Yep, Alex won 8 to zero -- oh, wait. That's what the score would be of an 8-ahead set. :D

Took less than 10 hours. I'm guessing about 8. Alex was on the hill twice and finally closed the deal.

Scott was heard commenting about the table conditions, but, of course, Alex had to play on the same equipment.

I have noticed that Alex has the knowledge to play all pocket billiard games, to include snooker. He sometimes does not fare well in tournaments, mainly because of their locations in casinos, I think. But Alex has every tournament title there is in pool, so he has nothing to prove.

But where Alex always shines the brightest in pool is his gambling exploits. He's hard to beat. He fares much better in his percentages of winning in action than he does tournaments. I saw him give Keith the 7 on bar table playing with the big cueball, a race to 10, and it was over in less than 20 minutes. He might as well have given Keith the 3 and out. It would not have mattered. And Keith plays extremely well on the bar table with the big cueball.

Alex is a gambling machine. :)
 

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IMO Alex is the best all around player out there today. Still very young and can take the cash down. I watched most of the match. It was not about the heart of Scott as someone posted earlier. Alex was just the better player at that match. I am sure they will be playing again someday and I would have to bet on Scott again.
 

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One thing to note; Scott practiced on the table for 2 hrs. and never missed a ball, Alex practiced for 15 - 20 minutes. I can't see how Scott could complain about the table conditions, if it's true, which someone posted on AZB.

Naturally, Oldschool had to put a NEGATIVE twist on the match with the, "chop suey" comment! :eek: Maybe with guys like this being allowed on public forums, it just may be one of many reasons why professional pool is in the s**thouse! IMHO!

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Scott/Alex

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It is pretty well known that Scott prefers Diamond tables over Gold Crowns. The tables at Hard Times are tough to play on. While it is true that they both played on the same equipment, Alex just played 20+ hours a few days earlier at Hard Times with one of the best players on the planet for up to 2k a game. He obviously felt more comfortable and relaxed in the surroundings and that was easy to see and the results showed this.

I love the game Alex brings to the table, but he does not always have to win in this spot. I would not be surprised to see them do it again on a Diamond somewhere else.
 

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Does anyone know how many games were played?

When did the pool world start saying they were playing for $40,000 when each guy was betting $20,000?

I was hoping someone would ask Scott, "Who are you wearing tonight?"
 

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I didnt watch the whole thing but Scott took many careless shots.

The only way I would have bet on Scott would be at his home table in Tempe.
 

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I watched the first 6 games and it was obvious tht Alex was going to get the cheese. Stream was nice but one of the commentators at the beginning had no clue what he was talking about. Scott played awful!! Went for way too many circus shots and then got careless on routine ones. Scott outmoves Alex in the end game but alex just makes everything he shoots at and executes at a real high level... The couple of times Alex made mistakes he got away with them where as Scott got punished for pretty much all of his mistakes.. BUT you make your own luck and since Alex was playing good he got the rolls and Scott played like shit and got shit pie alamode :D Neither one of these guys could have ever beaten efren when Efren was near his prime let alone in dead gear. It almost looked like scott wanted to show everyone "his power one pocket" game instead of just playing his real solid one pocket game. Scott just seemed like he was trying to hit a homerun on EVERY shot and you can't do that. I picked Alex to beat Scott because if Alex is concentrating on pool which lately he seems to be he is the best player on the planet right now. Alex had just went to war with Shane where as Scott has mostly been giving up huge weights to stiffs that bet high. Scott needs to get in the box with the top players more often even if he has to give a spot just to stay in top gear for matches like these with Alex or possibly Shane.
 

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Alex had just went to war with Shane where as Scott has mostly been giving up huge weights to stiffs that bet high. Scott needs to get in the box with the top players more often even if he has to give a spot just to stay in top gear for matches like these with Alex or possibly Shane.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you Rob.
It makes a difference to a players game what level of competition they are used to playing. I only saw a few games having tuned in late. And those only after Alex managed to get 6 games in front. But the fact that Alex had been competing more frequently with high caliper players while Scott apparently has not makes sense that Alex would win this match. While Scott could get away with sloppy play against his resent opponents, with Alex he could not.

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My observations of the match is Alex was comfortable and played very well, missed less balls which in hindsight it should have been expected considering all the time he had been playing there up until this match. Scott had a better end game I felt and moved better with the balls up table. Scott did not run balls good at all, not like he usually does and missed some shots he would have razzed me hard over if I did because they were pretty easy for that level of player.

I am sure Scott will lick his wounds and come back for more, one thing he has is a ton of heart and will get in the box. Scott made it to the top of the one pocket pyramid but I guess to stay on top you need to be in competition with the other top guys and put the hours in. This might be a wake up call for him to do just that because he is not running around all the big tournaments nor does he practice like his peers, natural talent can only do so much. Looking forward to a rematch between the two, hats off to Alex and well played.

 

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I do not want this to sound like a knock, but it will probably end up that way no matter what disclaimer I put on it but: having watched Scott play several matches over the last year, including commenting one of his matches from the TAR booth in Vegas at The Open, when I watch him now I feel like the whole power 1pocket thing has gotten into his head.

There's a time for that no doubt, but I think he needs to throttle back more than a bit and return to a *slightly* more defensive game. Just my opinion.

Lou Figueroa
 

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I would absolutely love to see schmidt play freezer for big money. I truly can't think of anything i'd like to see more. Just thought i'd throw that out there into the ether.
 

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i played a session last summer and lost like Scott did last night, what I saw is: Scott played not to lose, he didnt play to win. That I believe has happened to players of all levels at one time or another.


Scott didnt have his usual confidence, He had waaay the worst of it coming in there on that trick equipment, and Alex had a couple weeks to get adjusted to it. As I recall Scott wasnt in top form at the Derby this year, I could be wrong about that. It was a cold deck game IMO for Scott.

I'm sure they will play again, Scott however needs to get in stroke and back to his normal self. He can beat Alex and Alex can beat him, I think,,,... no, I know it was lopsided cause of the equipment(I know I live here now and use that to my advantage sometimes or disadvantage a few times as well).

I dont think Scott wins right now anywhere, but with a months work he can get back at it and be competitive, I hope he does. I'd love to sweat a close game with him and Alex.

my 2 cents:)
 

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I would absolutely love to see schmidt play freezer for big money. I truly can't think of anything i'd like to see more. Just thought i'd throw that out there into the ether.
I talked about that two years ago when Schmidty was playing a lot. John would have done the thing Alex did. Scott is a little over rated IMO.
 

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Turn it around and put Scott there playing tough action for a few days and build up his confidence and let Alex come in cold and you will see a different Scott. I would guess Scott played at 60% of his speed, with Alex playing at around 90%
 

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I talked about that two years ago when Schmidty was playing a lot. John would have done the thing Alex did. Scott is a little over rated IMO.
I would make a little wager that john can get some weight if he wants to play Scott some.
 

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I do not want this to sound like a knock, but it will probably end up that way no matter what disclaimer I put on it but: having watched Scott play several matches over the last year, including commenting one of his matches from the TAR booth in Vegas at The Open, when I watch him now I feel like the whole power 1pocket thing has gotten into his head.

There's a time for that no doubt, but I think he needs to throttle back more than a bit and return to a *slightly* more defensive game. Just my opinion.

Lou Figueroa
Its sure the reason he has a tough time in tournaments, thats for sure. I have seen him loose in tournaments to guys who don't play one pocket much. People talk about how good the pinoys run balls but I have never seen anyone run balls better than Scott when he's playing good. I also think he plays better on a diamond. I guess Lenny would know his game better than most though. I sure think Cliff would have gave Alex a much better game last night but I am a expert at getting helpless, so, I'm sure not knocking Scott.
 

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I do not want this to sound like a knock, but it will probably end up that way no matter what disclaimer I put on it but: having watched Scott play several matches over the last year, including commenting one of his matches from the TAR booth in Vegas at The Open, when I watch him now I feel like the whole power 1pocket thing has gotten into his head.

There's a time for that no doubt, but I think he needs to throttle back more than a bit and return to a *slightly* more defensive game. Just my opinion.

Lou Figueroa
I heartily agree with you, Lou. I think the time of Power Onepocket as we have known it has come and gone. I think we are in the era of Hybrid Onepocket for lack of a better term. I would define this as very tight old school moves, severe airtight traps, no sellout, no flyer onepocket backed up by world class runnout capability. I hate to snitch him off but Dennis Orcollo has been learning one pocket for 3 years by playing top-flight players for cheap money. When he is ready, he will explode on the scene and wipe everybody. Nils Feijen is awesome and has been playing for less than a year. Scott will adapt or have to move over.
 
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