Dave, they played 2 or 3 years in a row - the spot was 8-7....it was always the most anticipated action match at the DCC.In 2003 or 2004 at DCC, Efren was giving him 9-7 or 8-7 (I don't remember) for a pretty large stack. The set was close but Efren won if that answers your question. I think Alex in his prime would give Cliff the hardest match-up.
It was great to watch, they were both monsters. The year I sweated them was when Efren made some kind of back cut and 3 cushion shot with the cue ball for the win. Scott Frost was betting on Efren and jumped up celebrating before the ball fell in the hole. Just added to the spectacle. Wow!Dave, they played 2 or 3 years in a row - the spot was 8-7....it was always the most anticipated action match at the DCC.
The ones I saw were 8-7 and fantastic matches!! Maybe the best One Pocket I have ever seen!!! Cliff was great at that time and was known for giving really big spots, before players like Alex stepped into that -- at least that is the way I remember it.In 2003 or 2004 at DCC, Efren was giving him 9-7 or 8-7 (I don't remember) for a pretty large stack. The set was close but Efren won if that answers your question. I think Alex in his prime would give Cliff the hardest match-up.
I got to watch Cliff in the late 90's play some fairly good sized money matches with different people and I never saw him win. Not because he wasn't a great player, but he used to give up too much weight.
He was at the DCC this year and played. I loved watching him. He's not back yet, but I'm hopeful.I played Cliff once at my room in Ventura. This was back about a dozen years ago when I had my best game. He gave me 9/7-10/7 and it was all I could handle. He came ahead a couple of games. I don't think we said more than a few words to each other during the match. Loved his game. Constant pressure and he always shot the right shot. We played unlimited fouls and one game he had seven fouls and I had four fouls. That game took over three hours to play and of course it came down to the last ball and he back cut a spot shot for the win. Most recently I saw him in DCC and he had a pronounced limp from his stroke. We talked and I could tell he had lost his stamina and skills. I hope he makes a full recovery and gets his game back. WHAT A PLAYER HE WAS................
I agree he could move well, but mostly I remember him giving really good players 10 -7 or evenCliff was more of a Grinder than a top offensive mind. He certainly would be a through back to what we now call "Old School." But his Old School was really top shelf. Can you imagine him playing some hot shot nine ball player who didn't understand the moves and played him. It would end with Cliff showing all the offense and the hotshot scratching his head.
I agree he could move well, but mostly I remember him, giving really good players 10 -7, or even
11- 7, and just running out, every time they made a mistake.
Usually from places, I would have bet no one on the planet, would run out from.
I did not have that attitude for long, around him, though.