Does the kick break have any merit?

[ChrisBanks]

I was once told that if you find someone who uses the kick break against you, that you have a "tiger by the tail."

But at least on this website I have only seen it denounced as worthless.

If playing one pocket on a bar table, is this the preferred break?

 

[lfigueroa]

I was once told that if you find someone who uses the kick break against you, that you have a "tiger by the tail."

But at least on this website I have only seen it denounced as worthless.

If playing one pocket on a bar table, is this the preferred break?

Confused the hell out of me the first time someone played it against me (Piggy Banks). But to me, it just meant the udder guy was scared

Lou Figueroa

 

[NH Steve]

I tried it for a while back a few years ago, and developed a certain way to hit it -- if I recall, I put the cue ball near the head spot (or where it would be, on the center of the head string), and aimed near the third diamond up on my opponent's side and hit with straight draw, which flattens out the rebound angle into the side of the stack. Adjust as needed after practicing it a bunch of times.

On the receiving end, it often means kicking to take a scratch to start off, but because the balls frequently don't open that well, the second player in can get out of the break relatively easily, even if they do have to take a scratch to start...

 

[lll]

I was once told that if you find someone who uses the kick break against you, that you have a "tiger by the tail."

But at least on this website I have only seen it denounced as worthless.

If playing one pocket on a bar table, is this the preferred break?

there is a reason its not the STANDAD break after one hudred years
on a bar table im not sure
just sayin

 

[ChrisBanks]

there is a reason its not the STANDAD break after one hudred years
on a bar table im not sure
just sayin

I have only played one pocket on a bar table once, and that was after numerous drinks, and I don't even recall how I tried to break. I believe the standard break is not possible on a bar table, as it is not possible to strike the bottom rail.

 

[jazznpool]

I was once told that if you find someone who uses the kick break against you, that you have a "tiger by the tail."

But at least on this website I have only seen it denounced as worthless.

If playing one pocket on a bar table, is this the preferred break?

The way I see it, the problem with the kick break is that considerably more unreliable than the conventional break. When it works well it is super powerful as the cue ball is often buried in the stack and there is an array of balls near your hole. The problem is that maybe 35% of the time it sells out a good starter shot for your opponent. For that reason, I won't use it.

Martin

 

[jtompilot]

About a month ago a guy in New Orleans kick braked me, made a ball and ran out. I knew I was in big trouble

 

[lll]

I have only played one pocket on a bar table once, and that was after numerous drinks, and I don't even recall how I tried to break. I believe the standard break is not possible on a bar table, as it is not possible to strike the bottom rail.

chris i didnt see your question in reference to a bar table
i dont know the answer to that one

 

[Tom Wirth]

In my experience the kick break, and the break where a slow roll into the head ball and sticking the cue there while sending only one ball off the stack and in the direction of the breakers pocket are the only two breaks worthwhile on a bar box. A normal style break usually results in a scratch on bar box tables.

One of the down sides to the kick break on 9 foot tables is that even if you manage to pocket a ball on the break, you can't follow it up with a run of balls. I played in Strawberries second tournament in New Carrolton, Md. and made a ball on the break three times out of five in the finals against Jose Parica. I ran out twice and ran six the third time. I won that match by the way five games to four and I know damn well had I not been breaking so well he would have beaten me.

There is nothing like breaking and running out in One Pocket to take the air out of your opponent's sails. Talk about putting pressure on your opponent!

Tom

 

[Cowboy Dennis]

I was once told that if you find someone who uses the kick break against you, that you have a "tiger by the tail."

But at least on this website I have only seen it denounced as worthless.

If playing one pocket on a bar table, is this the preferred break?

I have played a lot of 1P on a bartable and I don't remember kick-breaking. I do remember a lot one one-rail long kicks to my opponents pocket after he broke though. Not much room on those little tables.

Kick-breaking on a 9' table means nothing. It's useless.

Dennis

 

[One Pocket Ghost]

But at least on this website I have only seen it denounced as worthless.

Chris....mostly it's worthless, as has been said in this thread - but not always...there's a not uncommon scenario, that members here either aren't aware of, or didn't think of, when it's actually a very strong break...and that ideal scenario for the kick break needs for two components to be in place...

Component #1. You need the poolroom to have somewhat damp conditions, and balls that are not too new and clean - very damp/sticky conditions, better yet...a dry poolroom with newer clean balls - no good....cuz unlike with dry conditions, with the sticky conditions the cueball will almost always stick frozen to the rack like you need it to.

Component #2. You are getting spotted 1-hit-and the pick or 2-hit-and the pick - the pick eliminates the main downside to this break (as mentioned by Martin in post #6) of possibly selling out a ball/shot on this break...now you can hit this break a little harder to more-so spread balls to your side - and if a sell-out ball leaks out of the stack towards your opponent's pocket, you get to 'pick it' off, and everything's george...:heh

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[naji]

I was once told that if you find someone who uses the kick break against you, that you have a "tiger by the tail."

But at least on this website I have only seen it denounced as worthless.

If playing one pocket on a bar table, is this the preferred break?

It is good break on any table, if they know how to make cue ball drill into the stack (extreme bottom, long follow through, very loose grip), the bottom guarantees top spin or role of cue into the stack after it hits rail. Also they have to know how to rack tight rack

 

[bstroud]

I used to play Surfer Rod a lot of one pocket on the bar table with big ball for 200-400 a game.

He used the kick break and it was very effective. Very hard to get out of.

Bill S.

 

[androd]

I used to play Surfer Rod a lot of one pocket on the bar table with big ball for 200-400 a game.

He used the kick break and it was very effective. Very hard to get out of.

Bill S.

Yeah, he could do it well on the 4x8's also.
Rod.