The Freezer vs T-Rex

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Quick 8 and out for Scott

We got Action now guys

JJ and Tom Wirth breaking down shots now guys.

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WOW!!!! WHAT A MATCH GUYS!!!
This match is EPIC.
Fantastic commentary from Jeremy Jones and A Game Of Controlled Aggression author Tom Wirth doing breaking down shots and strategies now.
Passes still available and we will replay tonight's play on a loop after they finish.
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Congrats to T-Rex
What a match this was, both players played amazing.
Today's play will replay on a loop all night.

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Overall Scott showed what an amazing player he still is and I think overall he was the better player in this match. His biggest problem was Tonys play yesterday when he was a bull in a china shop. If Tony had not collapsed at the end yesterday, todays play would have been a closed discussion. I have known Tony since he was just a 200 lb kid that knew the game from the moment he saw a pool table. He is mercurial and when that flame is on, he burns bright. I really think he could be the best if he could control that flame that burns so brightly. Scott showed a lot of heart today tying the match late in the day, he just could not overcome Tony’s ability to make shots from no where. If PoolActionTv wanted to make some money, they could put together a highlight reel of Tony’s greatest shots so far. Probably be a two set package. I really think what made this show was how much more entertaining JJ is with someone else in the booth with him. By himself, he is great. He does tend to get droll when he has been broadcasting after a few hours and I can tell you from experience it is hard to avoid. The broadcasting I have ever done was the best when there were two of us. This was one of the best production for entertainment I have seen for a while. Congratulations to T-Rex and the “Freezer” for a great battle. Tom if I ever do another broadcast, you’re in da booth.
 

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Overall Scott showed what an amazing player he still is and I think overall he was the better player in this match. His biggest problem was Tonys play yesterday when he was a bull in a china shop. If Tony had not collapsed at the end yesterday, todays play would have been a closed discussion. I have known Tony since he was just a 200 lb kid that knew the game from the moment he saw a pool table. He is mercurial and when that flame is on, he burns bright. I really think he could be the best if he could control that flame that burns so brightly. Scott showed a lot of heart today tying the match late in the day, he just could not overcome Tony’s ability to make shots from no where. If PoolActionTv wanted to make some money, they could put together a highlight reel of Tony’s greatest shots so far. Probably be a two set package. I really think what made this show was how much more entertaining JJ is with someone else in the booth with him. By himself, he is great. He does tend to get droll when he has been broadcasting after a few hours and I can tell you from experience it is hard to avoid. The broadcasting I have ever done was the best when there were two of us. This was one of the best production for entertainment I have seen for a while. Congratulations to T-Rex and the “Freezer” for a great battle. Tom if I ever do another broadcast, you’re in da booth.

i think tony's foot was either tinkering with or touching the accelerator as he saw fit throughout the match. i saw it on day 1.
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Great stats from the match from AtLarge on AZ Billiards

 

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Thank you all for the kind words. They mean a lot to me. Teaching this game means as much to me as all the years I spent as a player.
And a teacher's greatest reward comes in the appreciation of those who choose to listen.

And thanks to Ray for putting on such a terrific presentation. He has shown us all what a professional he is at promotions and live streaming.
It is easy to see how much of himself he puts into his craft. He has told me and it is quite evident that he wishes to push One Pocket into the hearts and souls of as many pool enthusiasts as possible.

Thanks also to JJ. He is fantastic not only in his commentary and analysis of One Pocket but he also shows great tolerance with us amateurs at the craft. Trust me, there is a hell of a lot more to his commentary than just dissecting One Pocket games. He makes anyone in the booth look good.

And thanks to Carmine of Paradise Billiards. This man for years wanted to open a pool room and just as he did, the pandemic shut him down. He's fighting through it though, just like the rest of us. Let's all do our best to support the local pool rooms. These are hard times for everyone.

And thanks both Tony and Scott for there performance on the pool table. What a battle! Someone had to win. They each showed great metal and proved themselves true champions!.



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Tom
 
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Great stats from the match from AtLarge on AZ Billiards

AtLarge does a fantastic job with that!

This one jumped out at me -- how many games Tony came from behind to win. Really that 6 game difference was more than the difference in the match overall. It also indicates Scott played well, and put himself in position to win the match. What my eyes told me was that Tony just made so many great banks -- sometimes moving more than one ball -- he was able to "make things happen" in the mid to latter part of games that put him over the top.

Games in which the player had the lead at some point
Chohan -- 40 games, his 30 wins plus 10 games he lost.​
Frost -- 43 games, his 27 wins plus 16 games he lost.​
 

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AtLarge does a fantastic job with that!

This one jumped out at me -- how many games Tony came from behind to win. Really that 6 game difference was more than the difference in the match overall. It also indicates Scott played well, and put himself in position to win the match. What my eyes told me was that Tony just made so many great banks -- sometimes moving more than one ball -- he was able to "make things happen" in the mid to latter part of games that put him over the top.

Games in which the player had the lead at some point
Chohan -- 40 games, his 30 wins plus 10 games he lost.​
Frost -- 43 games, his 27 wins plus 16 games he lost.​

I felt that Scott played a better all-around game of one-pocket. But Tony came with some monstrous shots to turn some games around. Those are the kind of shots that can make you or break you on any given day. I was certainly more impressed by Scott.
 

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Here are some results from the Tony Chohan vs. Scott Frost "Champions Challenge" One-Pocket match played November 19-21, 2020 at Paradise Billiards in Lantana (Atlantis), Florida. Pay-per-view live streaming was provided by PoolActionTV.

This match was a 3-day race to 30 games, with play stopping each day when the leader reached multiples of 10. The lead commentator (by phone) was Jeremy Jones. Additional commentary, all from the site, was provided by Ray Hansen each day, Tom Wirth on part of Days 2 and 3, and Billy Incardona on part of Day 3. Chohan won the match 30 - 27.

Conditions -- The conditions for this match included:
- Diamond 9-foot table with 4¼" corner pockets and blue Simonis 860 HR cloth;
- triangle rack;
- rack your own with alternating breaks;
- re-break if a ball is made on the break (occurred twice);
- no shot clock;
- cue-ball fouls only; and
- lag for opening break on first day (won by Frost)

Match results, in games (Chohan's score first)
Day 1 -- 4 - 10
Day 2 -- 16 - 7 (2-day total 20 - 17)
Day 3 -- 10 - 10
Total -- 30 - 27

Games won by breaker
Chohan -- 14 of 28 (50%)
Frost -- 13 of 29 (45%)
Total -- 27 of 57 (47%)

Breaks by side of table (viewing from head to foot)
Chohan -- Broke from his right all 28 times (14 wins, 14 losses).
Frost -- Broke from his right all 29 times (13 wins, 16 losses).

Games won by player who scored the first point (or had it scored for him)
Chohan -- 20 of 28 (71%)
Frost -- 19 of 29 (66%)
Total -- 39 of 57 (68%)

Scratches on the break -- Once (by Frost, who won the game).

Balls made on the break -- Twice (once by each player, requiring a re-break).

Games in which the player had the lead at some point
Chohan -- 40 games, his 30 wins plus 10 games he lost.
Frost -- 43 games, his 27 wins plus 16 games he lost.

Ball counts by length of run* -- The total ball counts resulted from the following runs and fouls. Counts are given for Chohan first, then Frost, then the total.
1 ball -- 58 times, 60 times, 118 times
2 balls -- 26, 30, 56
3 balls -- 12, 13, 25
4 balls -- 8, 12, 20
5 balls -- 11, 7, 18
6 balls -- 3, 4, 7
7 balls -- 3, 3, 6
8 balls -- 3, 5, 8
9 balls -- 1, 0, 1
Plus balls pocketed by opponent -- 27, 19, 46
Minus fouls -- 34, 45, 79
TOTAL ball count -- 298, 301, 599
Average game score -- 8 - 2.8 for games won by Chohan, 8 - 2.1 for games won by Frost, 8 - 2.5 in total.

Distribution of run-outs to win the games.* Counts are given for Chohan first, then Frost, then the total.
1 ball -- 11 times, 10 times, 21 times (37% of the 57 games)
2 balls -- 9, 5, 14
3 balls -- 1, 1, 2
4 balls -- 2, 1, 3
5 balls -- 2, 3, 5
6 balls -- 0, 1, 1
7 balls -- 2, 1, 3
8 or 9 balls -- 3, 5, 8 (14%)
Average (mean) "out" run -- 3.2 balls
Average (median) "out" run -- 2 balls

Distribution of lengths of games
Under 10 minutes -- 11 games (19% of the 57 games)
10 - 19 min. -- 25
20 - 29 min. -- 10
30 - 59 min. -- 8
60+ min. -- 3 (longest 77 min.)
Total -- 57

Match length (including racking and timeouts)
Day 1 -- 5 hours, 23 minutes
Day 2 -- 9 hours, 54 min.
Day 3 -- 6 hours, 58 min.
Total -- 22 hours, 15 min.

Average minutes per game
Day 1 -- 23.1 (approx. 20.9 not counting timeouts)
Day 2 -- 25.8 (23.8)
Day 3 -- 20.9 (18.2)
Total -- 23.4 (21.1)

*May contain a few inaccuracies caused by my occasional loss of attention.
Here are the stats from Atlarge over on Azb. Interesting neither player won more than 50% on their break. Also interesting, the day Tony went on a 11-1 heater was the day with the longest games.
 

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Thanks, Terry and Ray, you put together an excellent match. It was really enjoyable!
I also think the critics of the money in the middle are now silence, for these guys played their hearts out!
thanks again, Whitey
I still think $5000 is small potatoes t that level!!!
 

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I felt that Scott played a better all-around game of one-pocket. But Tony came with some monstrous shots to turn some games around. Those are the kind of shots that can make you or break you on any given day. I was certainly more impressed by Scott.
I think this set seemed to me about who could take endless pressure better and tony would have won by a lot more games if his stamina held out day two. I think scott broke down day two and tony let him back into it in a big way. obviously they both played fantastic but to come back from a 10 4 deficit is and be up I think I saw 18 12 against one of the best one pocket players on the planet is an unbelievable accomplishment. The last day scott played hard and once he tied it up seemed to stop playing as hard . That is how I saw it adn was very imppresed with both players. Tony's banking on the last day stole the show on the last day. The one game where he made the two railer and than banked two long railers through a 4 inch gap . Hard to fade that
 

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I still think $5000 is small potatoes t that level!!!
Think what you want, but this is sure better than the match between Alex and Django hosted by Roy's Basement. Whereas, it looked like a free for all, good buddy match that I believe did not disclose any amount in the middle. Correct me if I am wrong.

As long as it is disclosed and it is enough so the players play as these guys did, I then think what the heck do sweaters care! I am good to go, and will pay the admission, gladly!
Whitey
 

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Think what you want, but this is sure better than the match between Alex and Django hosted by Roy's Basement. Whereas, it looked like a free for all, good buddy match that I believe did not disclose any amount in the middle. Correct me if I am wrong.

As long as it is disclosed and it is enough so the players play as these guys did, I then think what the heck do sweaters care! I am good to go, and will pay the admission, gladly!
Whitey
Alex and Busti were playing out of there own pockets, something like $200 they mentioned during the stream. The entire point of the match was to give us something to watch while the entire country was locked down, i'm pretty sure it was not a PPV either, but a Free Stream Ray did.
 

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Here are the stats from Atlarge over on Azb. Interesting neither player won more than 50% on their break. Also interesting, the day Tony went on a 11-1 heater was the day with the longest games.

Thanks, Terry Hanna and J SCHWARZ, you beat me to posting the stats over here.
 
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Think what you want, but this is sure better than the match between Alex and Django hosted by Roy's Basement. Whereas, it looked like a free for all, good buddy match that I believe did not disclose any amount in the middle. Correct me if I am wrong.

As long as it is disclosed and it is enough so the players play as these guys did, I then think what the heck do sweaters care! I am good to go, and will pay the admission, gladly!
Whitey
so what's your point? I can't think and say i feel its a cheap match between 2 big time gambler that lasts 3 days without you challanging my statement? Keith
 

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so what's your point? I can't think and say i feel its a cheap match between 2 big time gambler that lasts 3 days without you challanging my statement? Keith
Sappo, read my reply, It states; "think what you want"! You challenged my statement, I then replied!
Your opinion your thoughts, I just do not agree, no argument, just discussion.
I am ok with you not agreeing with me, I really am, I really could care less!
Scott Frost explained his position on the bet, he did not have to, but, I am more than good for I know a bet is all relevant to the circumstances at the time.
You know these pros will buck heads in a tournament for hopefully 1st place prize that is not much different than this, and the odds are sure not 50/50, but more like 20 to 1 or more or less. Whitey
 
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