Overall Scott showed what an amazing player he still is and I think overall he was the better player in this match. His biggest problem was Tonys play yesterday when he was a bull in a china shop. If Tony had not collapsed at the end yesterday, todays play would have been a closed discussion. I have known Tony since he was just a 200 lb kid that knew the game from the moment he saw a pool table. He is mercurial and when that flame is on, he burns bright. I really think he could be the best if he could control that flame that burns so brightly. Scott showed a lot of heart today tying the match late in the day, he just could not overcome Tony’s ability to make shots from no where. If PoolActionTv wanted to make some money, they could put together a highlight reel of Tony’s greatest shots so far. Probably be a two set package. I really think what made this show was how much more entertaining JJ is with someone else in the booth with him. By himself, he is great. He does tend to get droll when he has been broadcasting after a few hours and I can tell you from experience it is hard to avoid. The broadcasting I have ever done was the best when there were two of us. This was one of the best production for entertainment I have seen for a while. Congratulations to T-Rex and the “Freezer” for a great battle. Tom if I ever do another broadcast, you’re in da booth.
AtLarge does a fantastic job with that!Great stats from the match from AtLarge on AZ Billiards
Stats -- Chohan vs. Frost One-Pocket Race to 30, November 2020
Here are some results from the Tony Chohan vs. Scott Frost "Champions Challenge" One-Pocket match played November 19-21, 2020 at Paradise Billiards in Lantana (Atlantis), Florida. Pay-per-view live streaming was provided by PoolActionTV. This match was a 3-day race to 30 games, with play...forums.azbilliards.com
AtLarge does a fantastic job with that!
This one jumped out at me -- how many games Tony came from behind to win. Really that 6 game difference was more than the difference in the match overall. It also indicates Scott played well, and put himself in position to win the match. What my eyes told me was that Tony just made so many great banks -- sometimes moving more than one ball -- he was able to "make things happen" in the mid to latter part of games that put him over the top.
■ Games in which the player had the lead at some pointChohan -- 40 games, his 30 wins plus 10 games he lost.Frost -- 43 games, his 27 wins plus 16 games he lost.
Here are the stats from Atlarge over on Azb. Interesting neither player won more than 50% on their break. Also interesting, the day Tony went on a 11-1 heater was the day with the longest games.Here are some results from the Tony Chohan vs. Scott Frost "Champions Challenge" One-Pocket match played November 19-21, 2020 at Paradise Billiards in Lantana (Atlantis), Florida. Pay-per-view live streaming was provided by PoolActionTV.
This match was a 3-day race to 30 games, with play stopping each day when the leader reached multiples of 10. The lead commentator (by phone) was Jeremy Jones. Additional commentary, all from the site, was provided by Ray Hansen each day, Tom Wirth on part of Days 2 and 3, and Billy Incardona on part of Day 3. Chohan won the match 30 - 27.
Conditions -- The conditions for this match included:
- Diamond 9-foot table with 4¼" corner pockets and blue Simonis 860 HR cloth;
- triangle rack;
- rack your own with alternating breaks;
- re-break if a ball is made on the break (occurred twice);
- no shot clock;
- cue-ball fouls only; and
- lag for opening break on first day (won by Frost)
■ Match results, in games (Chohan's score first)
Day 1 -- 4 - 10
Day 2 -- 16 - 7 (2-day total 20 - 17)
Day 3 -- 10 - 10
Total -- 30 - 27
■ Games won by breaker
Chohan -- 14 of 28 (50%)
Frost -- 13 of 29 (45%)
Total -- 27 of 57 (47%)
■ Breaks by side of table (viewing from head to foot)
Chohan -- Broke from his right all 28 times (14 wins, 14 losses).
Frost -- Broke from his right all 29 times (13 wins, 16 losses).
■ Games won by player who scored the first point (or had it scored for him)
Chohan -- 20 of 28 (71%)
Frost -- 19 of 29 (66%)
Total -- 39 of 57 (68%)
■ Scratches on the break -- Once (by Frost, who won the game).
■ Balls made on the break -- Twice (once by each player, requiring a re-break).
■ Games in which the player had the lead at some point
Chohan -- 40 games, his 30 wins plus 10 games he lost.
Frost -- 43 games, his 27 wins plus 16 games he lost.
■ Ball counts by length of run* -- The total ball counts resulted from the following runs and fouls. Counts are given for Chohan first, then Frost, then the total.
1 ball -- 58 times, 60 times, 118 times
2 balls -- 26, 30, 56
3 balls -- 12, 13, 25
4 balls -- 8, 12, 20
5 balls -- 11, 7, 18
6 balls -- 3, 4, 7
7 balls -- 3, 3, 6
8 balls -- 3, 5, 8
9 balls -- 1, 0, 1
Plus balls pocketed by opponent -- 27, 19, 46
Minus fouls -- 34, 45, 79
TOTAL ball count -- 298, 301, 599
Average game score -- 8 - 2.8 for games won by Chohan, 8 - 2.1 for games won by Frost, 8 - 2.5 in total.
■ Distribution of run-outs to win the games.* Counts are given for Chohan first, then Frost, then the total.
1 ball -- 11 times, 10 times, 21 times (37% of the 57 games)
2 balls -- 9, 5, 14
3 balls -- 1, 1, 2
4 balls -- 2, 1, 3
5 balls -- 2, 3, 5
6 balls -- 0, 1, 1
7 balls -- 2, 1, 3
8 or 9 balls -- 3, 5, 8 (14%)
Average (mean) "out" run -- 3.2 balls
Average (median) "out" run -- 2 balls
■ Distribution of lengths of games
Under 10 minutes -- 11 games (19% of the 57 games)
10 - 19 min. -- 25
20 - 29 min. -- 10
30 - 59 min. -- 8
60+ min. -- 3 (longest 77 min.)
Total -- 57
■ Match length (including racking and timeouts)
Day 1 -- 5 hours, 23 minutes
Day 2 -- 9 hours, 54 min.
Day 3 -- 6 hours, 58 min.
Total -- 22 hours, 15 min.
■ Average minutes per game
Day 1 -- 23.1 (approx. 20.9 not counting timeouts)
Day 2 -- 25.8 (23.8)
Day 3 -- 20.9 (18.2)
Total -- 23.4 (21.1)
*May contain a few inaccuracies caused by my occasional loss of attention.
I still think $5000 is small potatoes t that level!!!Thanks, Terry and Ray, you put together an excellent match. It was really enjoyable!
I also think the critics of the money in the middle are now silence, for these guys played their hearts out!
thanks again, Whitey
I think this set seemed to me about who could take endless pressure better and tony would have won by a lot more games if his stamina held out day two. I think scott broke down day two and tony let him back into it in a big way. obviously they both played fantastic but to come back from a 10 4 deficit is and be up I think I saw 18 12 against one of the best one pocket players on the planet is an unbelievable accomplishment. The last day scott played hard and once he tied it up seemed to stop playing as hard . That is how I saw it adn was very imppresed with both players. Tony's banking on the last day stole the show on the last day. The one game where he made the two railer and than banked two long railers through a 4 inch gap . Hard to fade thatI felt that Scott played a better all-around game of one-pocket. But Tony came with some monstrous shots to turn some games around. Those are the kind of shots that can make you or break you on any given day. I was certainly more impressed by Scott.
Think what you want, but this is sure better than the match between Alex and Django hosted by Roy's Basement. Whereas, it looked like a free for all, good buddy match that I believe did not disclose any amount in the middle. Correct me if I am wrong.I still think $5000 is small potatoes t that level!!!
Alex and Busti were playing out of there own pockets, something like $200 they mentioned during the stream. The entire point of the match was to give us something to watch while the entire country was locked down, i'm pretty sure it was not a PPV either, but a Free Stream Ray did.Think what you want, but this is sure better than the match between Alex and Django hosted by Roy's Basement. Whereas, it looked like a free for all, good buddy match that I believe did not disclose any amount in the middle. Correct me if I am wrong.
As long as it is disclosed and it is enough so the players play as these guys did, I then think what the heck do sweaters care! I am good to go, and will pay the admission, gladly!
Whitey
Here are the stats from Atlarge over on Azb. Interesting neither player won more than 50% on their break. Also interesting, the day Tony went on a 11-1 heater was the day with the longest games.
so what's your point? I can't think and say i feel its a cheap match between 2 big time gambler that lasts 3 days without you challanging my statement? KeithThink what you want, but this is sure better than the match between Alex and Django hosted by Roy's Basement. Whereas, it looked like a free for all, good buddy match that I believe did not disclose any amount in the middle. Correct me if I am wrong.
As long as it is disclosed and it is enough so the players play as these guys did, I then think what the heck do sweaters care! I am good to go, and will pay the admission, gladly!
Whitey
Sappo, read my reply, It states; "think what you want"! You challenged my statement, I then replied!so what's your point? I can't think and say i feel its a cheap match between 2 big time gambler that lasts 3 days without you challanging my statement? Keith