Mike Surber Update

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I have gotten some pretty bad news recently that has made me want to talk about this guy.
First off, I know I am a DONKEY, but Mike is 100% the reason I love One Pocket.
I know I may have told this story before on here but I am doing it again.


Mike came to Biloxi Ms. from Vegas to work at the casinos not sure when he got here but I do know that he played a lot when he 1st got here, him and his buddy Tom Golli(SP), gambled with anyone who come around they even took little trips around the south here to gamble, I was just a bit too young in my pool playing to have been around for this. I think they realized pretty quick there really wasn't enough pool action around to keep them interested in the grind, so I guess they semi-retired to just work and golf. Fast forward a few years(around 99’/2000’) and a new poolroom opened up just a few miles from where Mike lived and I am sure he might of had the bug to come in but didn't for a while when a mutual friend of ours kind of got hustled by Mike, they worked together at the casinos went to play golf and our buddy messed up and mentioned pool, so then Mike beats on him a few sessions, then our buddy got him to come hustle anybody else instead of him, and here I am young and dumb, yep we played 3 sessions $10 a game he gets my $50 or $60 each time, that’s when I said I can’t beat you. Thankfully he did not offer me weight because I am so naive that I would have probably keep losing till the spot got to about 12/6 back then.
This is one of the main reasons he was such a great person, even though he used to make a living playing pool at this point in his life he had compassion for people he knew was to stupid to not know their limits (Hi, I was stupid).
This started it for me from then on, we played pretty much every Tuesday he was off till his death in 09’, he just played never tried to gamble with all the locals so he became like the house pro without all the benefits, I do believe he enjoyed playing everyone, I also believe me and him played the most out of all the locals with both of us getting something from it with me getting waaaaay more than him as he made my game improve by balls. At the end our game was 9/7 and I maybe wrong but I believe he was trying just as hard to win every game or session as me, and if anyone knows me, I’m never under any circumstances not trying to win, my nickname should be “funzise champion”.
Around the time Katrina hit us in 05’ is when I finally started seeing really how good he played. He went to work every shift, most people early outed when the boats were not busy not Mike, his days off were Tues. and Wed. so he only played on Tues. since he was back playing, but now he is off work for a solid year while they get the casino built back after Katrina, so he uses this time to travel around and play some pool, I was still working so I didn’t get to go, and I really don’t know all the spots he hit but every time he would come home he would tell me who all he beat. He also around this time started going to tournaments like the Derby each year he made gambling scores and placed high in the events as well.
In 07’ I believe is when I was lucky enough to get a chance to go, he let me sleep on his couch in his room for $20 a night, which was one of the only reasons I was able to go. When he was not playing or watching his old friend Allen Hopkins, he sweated my matches.
Mike was a big custom cue collector, he probably average 6 cues a year for no telling how long. One Tuesday I met him at the poolroom and he was shooting with a new cue but it didn’t look like the ones he usually gets, Scruggs was his favorite as he probably bought 10 or 15 of them as long as I have known him, but this one looked different, so I said what you get this week, he rolls the cue around and I see “Dishaw” on the butt of the cue, he knew that I was one day going to get me one of Dan Dishaw’s cues because that was my dream cue since I had a basic one years earlier and loved the way it played. He tells me I know you can’t afford it, but I saw it and picked it up for you and you can pay me on time till you pay it off, That’s the kind of guy he was. Well around the summer of 09’ I was struggling a bit so I was forced to sell anything of value so the cue was about all I had, and I called Mike to see if he would put the cue and my case on Ebay since he bought and sold stuff on there all the time. He asked me what I was going to sell them for and told him about $1300 for both, he said ok we hang up, about 15 min. later he calls back and said he had $1000 he could give me, and he would just hold my cue till I was able to pay him back, That’s the kind of guy he was. My cue was in his safe at the time of his Murder in Nov. and I was going to sell it, but after what happened a part of me felt like I needed that cue to remember him, I wrote his family and told them my story in hopes that they would understand what he meant to me and they was totally understanding and gave me my cue and ask that I donate the money I owed to Mike’s charity. I still play with that cue today, One Pocket is its favorite game it specializes in $20 a game.
Well since he had my cue, I was not really playing that much, and he knew if I was not at the poolroom by 5:00 that I was probably not coming, and he played someone else. The night he was murdered I was running later than usual I got there about 5:30 thinking he would still be there, but he had just left, but I just thought he was tired and went home. I stayed up there till about 10 watching the WSOP final table on TV and went home. When he did not show up for work on Thursday morning is when everyone started looking for him. Thursday night around 6:00 is when about 6 of us from the poolroom went to his house and found him right inside his front door. I never went in and looked at him I stayed by the street, I called 911, then I called his brother whom I only met one time briefly before, so I can imagine what he was thinking getting that phone call.
The way that his situation all went down would have keep people on the edge of there seats if it was a movie or something, but guess what it was no movie, and a great guy was gone. The service for Mike was like going to a pool tournament with a few relatives sprinkled in there. They had food and stuff after at the pool room where they was playing Mike’s Accustats match against Cliff Joiner for 3rd place in DCC One Pocket, my phone rings and its Cliff he said he was sorry he missed it, I told him about the match they were showing and he said “I wish Mike would have won that match”. If anybody watches that match Mike misses an easy 5 ball that I’m sure would have won him that match.
It is sad that someone could think of doing this to anyone, and on top of that get away with something so horrific. We can only hope he has already got what he deserves. Mike may be gone but I promise he will never be forgotten by this Donkey, and a lot of other One Pocketers across this country. We miss you buddy.

PS. Cancer sucks, I love you Maw Maw
 

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Wow J. I didn?t realize y?all (southern speak) were friends. You are a good writer and paint an excellent picture of what sounds like an exceptionally nice man. You and Doc were lucky to have known him. That cue would mean a lot to anyone. Glad you still have it.
 

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jason
thats a very moving story. my condolences for the loss of your friend .
from your story and the respect and admiration mike has in the pool community
he definitely was a special person
i hope the fresh set of eyes solves the case and the guy who did it gets fried
 

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This afternoon at Bayou Billiards in Baton Rouge I saw a guy playing one of the machines on the counter, and I thought he looked so much like pictures of the suspect in this case, I'm sure I did a double-take. Same hairline, hair long in the back - but no ponytail - I asked around, nobody seemed to know him, but said he had been coming in 'for a while'. When I left I called the local police to come and have a look at him. I am told that a couple of guys came in after I had gone, and did a walk-through, but apparently they did not think he resembled the suspect and did not brace him. I called a second time, but I don't know if anything further was done. I had given them Mike Surber's name, so surely they had the same pictures we have seen. A resemblance . . . in my opinion. This is how he will be caught.
 

lll

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This afternoon at Bayou Billiards in Baton Rouge I saw a guy playing one of the machines on the counter, and I thought he looked so much like pictures of the suspect in this case, I'm sure I did a double-take. Same hairline, hair long in the back - but no ponytail - I asked around, nobody seemed to know him, but said he had been coming in 'for a while'. When I left I called the local police to come and have a look at him. I am told that a couple of guys came in after I had gone, and did a walk-through, but apparently they did not think he resembled the suspect and did not brace him. I called a second time, but I don't know if anything further was done. I had given them Mike Surber's name, so surely they had the same pictures we have seen. A resemblance . . . in my opinion. This is how he will be caught.

bill
thanks so much for caring and making an effort to get this guy caught
larry
 

Bmoretallpaul

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I have gotten some pretty bad news recently that has made me want to talk about this guy.
First off, I know I am a DONKEY, but Mike is 100% the reason I love One Pocket.
I know I may have told this story before on here but I am doing it again.


Mike came to Biloxi Ms. from Vegas to work at the casinos not sure when he got here but I do know that he played a lot when he 1st got here, him and his buddy Tom Golli(SP), gambled with anyone who come around they even took little trips around the south here to gamble, I was just a bit too young in my pool playing to have been around for this. I think they realized pretty quick there really wasn't enough pool action around to keep them interested in the grind, so I guess they semi-retired to just work and golf. Fast forward a few years(around 99’/2000’) and a new poolroom opened up just a few miles from where Mike lived and I am sure he might of had the bug to come in but didn't for a while when a mutual friend of ours kind of got hustled by Mike, they worked together at the casinos went to play golf and our buddy messed up and mentioned pool, so then Mike beats on him a few sessions, then our buddy got him to come hustle anybody else instead of him, and here I am young and dumb, yep we played 3 sessions $10 a game he gets my $50 or $60 each time, that’s when I said I can’t beat you. Thankfully he did not offer me weight because I am so naive that I would have probably keep losing till the spot got to about 12/6 back then.
This is one of the main reasons he was such a great person, even though he used to make a living playing pool at this point in his life he had compassion for people he knew was to stupid to not know their limits (Hi, I was stupid).
This started it for me from then on, we played pretty much every Tuesday he was off till his death in 09’, he just played never tried to gamble with all the locals so he became like the house pro without all the benefits, I do believe he enjoyed playing everyone, I also believe me and him played the most out of all the locals with both of us getting something from it with me getting waaaaay more than him as he made my game improve by balls. At the end our game was 9/7 and I maybe wrong but I believe he was trying just as hard to win every game or session as me, and if anyone knows me, I’m never under any circumstances not trying to win, my nickname should be “funzise champion”.
Around the time Katrina hit us in 05’ is when I finally started seeing really how good he played. He went to work every shift, most people early outed when the boats were not busy not Mike, his days off were Tues. and Wed. so he only played on Tues. since he was back playing, but now he is off work for a solid year while they get the casino built back after Katrina, so he uses this time to travel around and play some pool, I was still working so I didn’t get to go, and I really don’t know all the spots he hit but every time he would come home he would tell me who all he beat. He also around this time started going to tournaments like the Derby each year he made gambling scores and placed high in the events as well.
In 07’ I believe is when I was lucky enough to get a chance to go, he let me sleep on his couch in his room for $20 a night, which was one of the only reasons I was able to go. When he was not playing or watching his old friend Allen Hopkins, he sweated my matches.
Mike was a big custom cue collector, he probably average 6 cues a year for no telling how long. One Tuesday I met him at the poolroom and he was shooting with a new cue but it didn’t look like the ones he usually gets, Scruggs was his favorite as he probably bought 10 or 15 of them as long as I have known him, but this one looked different, so I said what you get this week, he rolls the cue around and I see “Dishaw” on the butt of the cue, he knew that I was one day going to get me one of Dan Dishaw’s cues because that was my dream cue since I had a basic one years earlier and loved the way it played. He tells me I know you can’t afford it, but I saw it and picked it up for you and you can pay me on time till you pay it off, That’s the kind of guy he was. Well around the summer of 09’ I was struggling a bit so I was forced to sell anything of value so the cue was about all I had, and I called Mike to see if he would put the cue and my case on Ebay since he bought and sold stuff on there all the time. He asked me what I was going to sell them for and told him about $1300 for both, he said ok we hang up, about 15 min. later he calls back and said he had $1000 he could give me, and he would just hold my cue till I was able to pay him back, That’s the kind of guy he was. My cue was in his safe at the time of his Murder in Nov. and I was going to sell it, but after what happened a part of me felt like I needed that cue to remember him, I wrote his family and told them my story in hopes that they would understand what he meant to me and they was totally understanding and gave me my cue and ask that I donate the money I owed to Mike’s charity. I still play with that cue today, One Pocket is its favorite game it specializes in $20 a game.
Well since he had my cue, I was not really playing that much, and he knew if I was not at the poolroom by 5:00 that I was probably not coming, and he played someone else. The night he was murdered I was running later than usual I got there about 5:30 thinking he would still be there, but he had just left, but I just thought he was tired and went home. I stayed up there till about 10 watching the WSOP final table on TV and went home. When he did not show up for work on Thursday morning is when everyone started looking for him. Thursday night around 6:00 is when about 6 of us from the poolroom went to his house and found him right inside his front door. I never went in and looked at him I stayed by the street, I called 911, then I called his brother whom I only met one time briefly before, so I can imagine what he was thinking getting that phone call.
The way that his situation all went down would have keep people on the edge of there seats if it was a movie or something, but guess what it was no movie, and a great guy was gone. The service for Mike was like going to a pool tournament with a few relatives sprinkled in there. They had food and stuff after at the pool room where they was playing Mike’s Accustats match against Cliff Joiner for 3rd place in DCC One Pocket, my phone rings and its Cliff he said he was sorry he missed it, I told him about the match they were showing and he said “I wish Mike would have won that match”. If anybody watches that match Mike misses an easy 5 ball that I’m sure would have won him that match.
It is sad that someone could think of doing this to anyone, and on top of that get away with something so horrific. We can only hope he has already got what he deserves. Mike may be gone but I promise he will never be forgotten by this Donkey, and a lot of other One Pocketers across this country. We miss you buddy.

PS. Cancer sucks, I love you Maw Maw

Jason, I met Mike in Baltimore a couple of years before this tragedy. He was truly a gentleman. He was waiting for a local fellow which he had scheduled a game with. I had just started playing pool back then. ( yes I started in my 40) . I was practicing and he offered some suggestions. Long story short. He was the professional pro. Willing to help out a struggling player without any benefit to himself.
 

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This afternoon at Bayou Billiards in Baton Rouge I saw a guy playing one of the machines on the counter, and I thought he looked so much like pictures of the suspect in this case, I'm sure I did a double-take. Same hairline, hair long in the back - but no ponytail - I asked around, nobody seemed to know him, but said he had been coming in 'for a while'. When I left I called the local police to come and have a look at him. I am told that a couple of guys came in after I had gone, and did a walk-through, but apparently they did not think he resembled the suspect and did not brace him. I called a second time, but I don't know if anything further was done. I had given them Mike Surber's name, so surely they had the same pictures we have seen. A resemblance . . . in my opinion. This is how he will be caught.

Very commendable try, Bill. It's great that you're keeping your eyes peeled for the suspect! I'd be surprised if "Cooper" would linger anywhere in this general area, but of course one never knows. He seemed to have some connection with the greater Atlanta area, although I didn't detect any southern accent-- more midwest. He was in Villa Rica, GA before and after Mike's murder.He'd likely be in his 60s now, about 5'8".

Island Drive is right. The guy's unusual stance is a dead giveaway: feet together, bent straight forward from the waist. I've only ever seen women use that stance. I'd just wish we'd have had a better picture of the guy's face from the git-go!

~Doc
 

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Very commendable try, Bill. It's great that you're keeping your eyes peeled for the suspect! I'd be surprised if "Cooper" would linger anywhere in this general area, but of course one never knows. He seemed to have some connection with the greater Atlanta area, although I didn't detect any southern accent-- more midwest. He was in Villa Rica, GA before and after Mike's murder.He'd likely be in his 60s now, about 5'8".

Island Drive is right. The guy's unusual stance is a dead giveaway: feet together, bent straight forward from the waist. I've only ever seen women use that stance. I'd just wish we'd have had a better picture of the guy's face from the git-go!

~Doc
They can do so much more with DNA now where it’s possible to trace it through a family member and eliminate an/or reduce the suspects within a family. They can even come up with a composite drawing. Has any of this been attempted? Have Dateline, 48 Hours or 2020 considered airing the story?
 

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They can do so much more with DNA now where it’s possible to trace it through a family member and eliminate an/or reduce the suspects within a family. They can even come up with a composite drawing. Has any of this been attempted? Have Dateline, 48 Hours or 2020 considered airing the story?
No matter how much he changes with age/looks etc.
His stance will never change.
I think the police or whomever is informed, should be aware of this ''tell''. It's as obvious/uniquie to me as a mole on ones cheek.
 

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Yes, the authorities have been made aware of "Cooper's" unusual stance, along with other characteristics like his soft voice that seemed like a confidence man. They do have his DNA, but not all state prisons participate in the DNA criminal database.

One of the major problems from the very beginning is that the pictures are so grainy of him due to the poor video that it becomes very difficult to recognize him from those pictures. I saw him near and in person, and I've looked at thousands of pictures, but few were very close. I wouldn't be surprised at this point if he were dead. But the FBI and others are still looking.
 

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Yes, the authorities have been made aware of "Cooper's" unusual stance, along with other characteristics like his soft voice that seemed like a confidence man. They do have his DNA, but not all state prisons participate in the DNA criminal database.

One of the major problems from the very beginning is that the pictures are so grainy of him due to the poor video that it becomes very difficult to recognize him from those pictures. I saw him near and in person, and I've looked at thousands of pictures, but few were very close. I wouldn't be surprised at this point if he were dead. But the FBI and others are still looking.
My initial question was “why did Surber take this stranger to his home in the first place?”. In hanging out at bars and pool rooms I never thought about even getting in a car with anyone I met unless it was someone I have known socially or in business. This raised my eyebrows from the first time I read the account of his murder. I’m not blaming him for his own demise but I just don’t understand his graciousnes.
 

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My initial question was “why did Surber take this stranger to his home in the first place?”. In hanging out at bars and pool rooms I never thought about even getting in a car with anyone I met unless it was someone I have known socially or in business. This raised my eyebrows from the first time I read the account of his murder. I’m not blaming him for his own demise but I just don’t understand his graciousnes.
We were surprised too. "Cooper" had represented himself as a recording studio owner who was in town scouting locations for a local studio in Biloxi. Mike said that he would introduce the guy to Mike's attorney, and show him around the area and the casinos. Mike had one of his vehicles parked over at a friend's house, so he wanted to pick it up to take to his own residence, and he needed someone to drive the other vehicle.

They stopped at the attorney's office, but he was not there, so they spoke with the secretary for a few minutes, then left. They stopped by Mike's friend's place, then Mike drove the parked vehicle while "Cooper" drove the other. They arrived back at Mike's place, where Mike allowed him inside; and that's when the guy killed him.

Earlier at the poolroom Mike had asked his friend Jerry if he had some extra dough. Jerry was switching over to my table. Jerry said he had a couple of hundred he could give him, but Mike said that he already had a thousand. I think at first Mike felt that he could get "Cooper" into a wagering situation. But mostly I think he was impressed with the guy's status as a studio owner (alleged). The irony is that Mike, being a little guy, and having been around gambling his whole life, was normally very cautious about avoiding any perilous situations. For example, he and Jason used to play all day Tuesdays, then when it was time to leave, he always had Jason walk with him out to his car after dark. He was known to take lots of security measures at his home.

Even careful people can eventually get conned. "Cooper" was a predator, and he was able to fool Mike. Earlier in the pool room Cooper had tried to get next to another little guy about Mike's size, but the guy left. You can see it on the tape. That's where you can see Cooper's peculiar pool stance. As soon as Mike left with the guy --this is in broad daylight-- Jerry and I looked at each other incredulously. We were surprised that Mike left with the guy.
 
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