Frost /joyner Mobile 2010

[lll]

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any way
its cliffs shot
what would you do??

 

[senor]

I don't think I could sleep at night if I didn't shoot at my hole here.

 

[androd]

I'm shooting at my (big) pocket.
I marked the spot to hit for drawing the CB, might get lucky playing safe.
Rod.

 

[Miller]

me also. bear down on that stripe in the middle of the table about 1/2 tip outside. if the solid was about a ball width closer, i think it would be near impossible to miss.

 

[Miller]

me also. bear down on that stripe in the middle of the table about 1/2 tip outside. if the solid was about a ball width closer, i think it would be near impossible to miss.

sorry androd. same time post. referring to senor shot....

after seeing yours, maybe i should change my mind

 

[lll]

me also. bear down on that stripe in the middle of the table about 1/2 tip outside. if the solid was about a ball width closer, i think it would be near impossible to miss.

do you mean the stripe by the spot??(14??)
or the stripe one diamond over and 2 diamonds up from cliffs pocke(10)??

 

[lll]

I'm shooting at my (big) pocket.
I marked the spot to hit for drawing the CB, might get lucky playing safe.
Rod.

rod your main objective is to get the solid out of scotts hole isnt it??
or is that just a fringe benefit from making your shot in your hole??
inquiring minds want to know

 

[Miller]

do you mean the stripe by the spot??(14??)
or the stripe one diamond over and 2 diamonds up from cliffs pocke(10)??

i know its a good chance sell out if miss, but i make that 10

 

[lll]

i know its a good chance sell out if miss, but i make that 10

to use an old saying from these parts
no aspersions suggested
just wanted to be clear which stripe you are bearing down on.

 

[Miller]

I don't think I could sleep at night if I didn't shoot at my hole here.

how about it senor? which one?

 

[androd]

rod your main objective is to get the solid out of scotts hole isnt it??
or is that just a fringe benefit from making your shot in your hole??
inquiring minds want to know

The safety is for anyone who doesn't want to shoot.
Different shot, might get lucky, might sell out. Room to hit it good though.
Rod.

 

[lll]

The safety is for anyone who doesn't want to shoot.
Different shot, might get lucky, might sell out. Room to hit it good though.
Rod.

at the distance of the cue to the object ball
and the close ness of the ball in scotts pocket
for players of scotts/cliffs level whats the make miss % of shooting the 10??
would you guess??
and what % for those of us who dont exactly walk on water??
i'll see your answers and any other shot selections in the am

to be continued...............................................

 

[androd]

at the distance of the cue to the object ball
and the close ness of the ball in scotts pocket
for players of scotts/cliffs level whats the make miss % of shooting the 10??
would you guess??
and what % for those of us who dont exactly walk on water??
i'll see your answers and any other shot selections in the am

to be continued...............................................

First, you put on one pocket blinders. so you can't see the 8 ball.
If you cut it a little thin you may get 2 kisses and make it.
If you hit it a little fat you may get 1 kiss and make it.
Or maybe you shoot it right in.
Rod.

 

[blackeee]

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any way
its cliffs shot
what would you do??
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I'd take a scratch putting snow right by that pocket it's close to. he can't see the 3 and can't shoot at his hole.

 

[petie]

First, you put on one pocket blinders. so you can't see the 8 ball.
If you cut it a little thin you may get 2 kisses and make it.
If you hit it a little fat you may get 1 kiss and make it.
Or maybe you shoot it right in.
Rod.

That's what I'm doing. I'm making the 8 and coming up the rail between the second and tird diamond. This protects the balls near my pocket and doesn't sell out a bank or straight it.

 

[NH Steve]

It does look awfully tempting to just shoot at my own pocket here. But assuming in real life it might look a little tougher -- especially if the table is tight. So in that case I'm definitely doing something with the solid by Frost's pocket. It looks like there is enough room on the left side of the solid near Frost's pocket (as Cliff looks toward it) to cut that ball to the right and get a little intentional double kiss to bump the solid over a little (adding to the wall protecting balls near Cliff's pocket), and leaving the cue ball near Frost's pocket. Like this:

 

[petie]

It does look awfully tempting to just shoot at my own pocket here. But assuming in real life it might look a little tougher -- especially if the table is tight. So in that case I'm definitely doing something with the solid by Frost's pocket. It looks like there is enough room on the left side of the solid near Frost's pocket (as Cliff looks toward it) to cut that ball to the right and get a little intentional double kiss to bump the solid over a little (adding to the wall protecting balls near Cliff's pocket), and leaving the cue ball near Frost's pocket. Like this:

When I look at your diagram, Steve, I don't think I have room to get past the two and make the 8. I like your shot.

 

[androd]

It does look awfully tempting to just shoot at my own pocket here. But assuming in real life it might look a little tougher -- especially if the table is tight. So in that case I'm definitely doing something with the solid by Frost's pocket. It looks like there is enough room on the left side of the solid near Frost's pocket (as Cliff looks toward it) to cut that ball to the right and get a little intentional double kiss to bump the solid over a little (adding to the wall protecting balls near Cliff's pocket), and leaving the cue ball near Frost's pocket. Like this:

Yes I didn't see this shot before. I like it. Much easier than the kick I diagrammed. The kick is a good shot but takes practice and you must know the formula.

 

[senor]

how about it senor? which one?

The stripe with the path to the hole.

 

[petie]

Yes I didn't see this shot before. I like it. Much easier than the kick I diagrammed. The kick is a good shot but takes practice and you must know the formula.

OK what is the formula? Are you using the mirror system with the mirror in the gutter or something better?