I think these changes will serve to better the game it is high time that changes were made to unify the game and as such perhaps bring out the better of all players and the integrity of this most highly regarded game of skillA number of new rule twists for One Pocket this year -- basically no jumping the cue ball (or object ball) intentionally off the table to prevent an opponent's hanger from scoring. Also owing 5 balls is loss of game.
The rules are here, just scroll down for the One Pocket. At the bottom they reference onepocket.org
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It's also interesting that they prohibit both players having a negative score. This will likely affect the top players more than the average player. So if a guy owes one, and the opponent fouls to also owe one, the score would revert to 0-0.A number of new rule twists for One Pocket this year -- basically no jumping the cue ball (or object ball) intentionally off the table to prevent an opponent's hanger from scoring. Also owing 5 balls is loss of game.
The rules are here, just scroll down for the One Pocket. At the bottom they reference onepocket.org
I'm not in favor of the 'not being able to make your opponents ball and jumping off the table' rule either...not being able to jump the cue ball with the game winner in the opponents pocket
is just wrong...jmho
rerack after you make a ball AND SCRATCH is just wrong....jmho
daveI'm not in favor of the 'not being able to make your opponents ball and jumping off the table' rule either.
It's unclear to me that making a ball on the break and scratching is a legal stroke. If it's not, I think the rule is not to rerack, but reading comprehension is not my strength. Lol - Larry, please reread that rule and let me know if I read it wrong.
It still sounds iffy to me. Clarification is needed even though I'm not going.An object ball legally pocketed in the breakers pocket is a re-rack and re-break.
dave
an attorney reading whats bolded above would agree that if you scratched too the ball was not "legally" made
i am not sure if thats what they intended (although i hope so)
because my defense attorney will say
i pocketed the ball with a legal stroke
the scratch is separate
As long as michigan is not playing miamiIt still sounds iffy to me. Clarification is needed even though I'm not going.
Just so you know I love at least one attorney! Go Blue
if you notice they say ball in hand behind the line or in the kitchen everywhere its mentioned
just sayin
not being able to jump the cue ball with the game winner in the opponents pocket
is just wrong...jmho
rerack after you make a ball AND SCRATCH is just wrong....jmho
I have to think about that one jimmyLarry, would you agree to a jump shot announcement whereby you just spot up his ball and one of yours and give him ball behind line?
I have to think about that one jimmy
just because you PLAN TO JUMP THE CUE BALL doesnt mean you will be successful
just like if you PLAN TO SCRATCH BEHIND HIS BALL doesnt mean you will always be successful
if the compromise you suggest was the rule
i would NEVER scratch behind your ball but ALWAYS call a jump cueball
since i know i will always be successful of my goal
I believe it was actually the other way around sir -- at least for me. Meaning DCC (and others) were already changing rules, or talking about it, and we have no control over that. So their changes, and proposed changes, entered our discussions here. Ultimately however, our own official rules actually toe the "traditional" line. DCC is trying some new rules this year -- let's see what happens. Either they will "fly" or not.They have ruined 1 pocket at the Derby! Anyone else got any rules they wanna add? All these rules discussions on here have turned the Derby into Texas Express 1 pocket! Awesome job fellas! I'm out of here!
Maybe i missed it. But what's new besides -5 is loss of game and you can't shoot the cb off the table? I personally think both are good. I don't want a cb flying off hitting me or anyone plus it has to damage the equipment and balls. And in the spirit of not having 2 hour games the minus 5 rule makes sense as does the both players can't be negative.They have ruined 1 pocket at the Derby! Anyone else got any rules they wanna add? All these rules discussions on here have turned the Derby into Texas Express 1 pocket! Awesome job fellas! I'm out of here!
The penalty portions of the rule are good. But in actual practice I'm wondering how they'd be judged? IOW the complaining player would have to go to the desk to request a ref to watch the alleged offending player. As soon as the ref left, the player would likely revert to slow play. There would not likely ever be enough refs to watch all the matches. I suppose they could have a slow play squad to drift throughout the various matches to observe, especially the known slow players.I like the slow play rule. One pocket should add a clock like they have in chess. I’ve watched some of the matches in the MOT and get amused and annoyed at the same time watching players walk around the table like they are stalking their prey.