WWYD - Canadian Ghost Version #3

[Nick B]

Man how many of these do I have to do before Bruce takes back his throne.

Well same players Nick B and John from Oregon. He's now down 6 games (has not lost all 6 that's just the aggregate-we traded a few games). Further adjustment.

Same stakes ($50US/Game) Nick 10 - John 7. Thus I owe 1 and go to 9. John makes a great long bank and sticks me here:

He needs 2 balls John 5 - NB 3 Special note for those who pay attention. I play left handed (natural righty) and yes the rest of her is just as nice as the bottom.


From my pocket:
The 10-13 are wired AND 14-11 are pointed perfectly to the bottom half of 10 (UGH). I have ZERO air on the 3





From John's Pocket:

 

[vapros]

Yessir, a rock and a hard place. Kick off the nearest long rail and go straight across and leave him on the opposite long rail. Good luck!

 

[Nick B]

Just a little question for the group. How long should we leave these up before the "great reveal"?

 

[vapros]

Take the temperature, Nick. Leave it up longer if interest and discussion is good. If it just doesn't work, give it only a couple of days and button it up and post another.

P.S. Thanks for your efforts to keep this little group engaged. I don't know what is going on with Facebook - maybe some of them will turn up here when there is action. We must hope. Be our ghost.

 

[jtompilot]

If their frozen, shoot thru the 3 with rt spin to put the cue ball under the 13.

 

[Nick B]

I'm also going to SVB vs Tony. Hope to do a daily under the hood write up.

 

[Nick B]

If their frozen, shoot thru the 3 with rt spin to put the cue ball under the 13.

Ohhhh that's good thinking. Tough to gage the weight required but I like the idea...but not what I did.

 

[12squared]

You can kick the cue ball 5 rails behind that 3 ball cluster by loading up the reverse (left) hitting the long rail, long rail and around the table.

On second thought, I'm not sure if you can aim up table enough to make all that happen. I do like the Pilot's idea

 

[vapros]

Jim, how would you aim that shot - 45 degrees off the tangent line?

 

[Nick B]

You can kick the cue ball 5 rails behind that 3 ball cluster by loading up the reverse (left) hitting the long rail, long rail and around the table.

On second thought, I'm not sure if you can aim up table enough to make all that happen. I do like the Pilot's idea

I looked at that. Two problems. These tables are well worn and have very little slide. You can't see enough up the rail to make it feasible.

 

[OldSchool]

To start off with you just touch the cueball and take a scratch - especially when you are playing an inexperienced guy who plays 3-4 balls under you, as is the case here.

 

[J.R.]

Jim Pilot posted, in essence but not verbatim, if they're (cue ball and 3-ball) frozen, shoot thru the 3-ball with right spin to put the cue ball under the 13-ball.

Vapros inquired, "Jim, how would you aim that shot - 45 degrees off the tangent line?"

In response, since the 10-ball and 13-ball appear to be frozen or nearly frozen to each other and are pointed directly at my opponent's pocket for an easy no-brainer shot nearly anywhere on the table except behind the three striped cluster of balls nearest my opponent's pocket, it seems that my best option would be Jim Pilot's shot selection which is to shoot the cue ball thru the 3-ball with right spin and put the cue ball next to or under the 13-ball.

Vapros, in turn, inquired how would he (Jim) aim that shot? Would you (Jim) shoot it 45 degrees off the tangent line?

I am not aware of any mathematical formula for shooting a frozen cue ball to strike a particular target - in this case less than 4 feet to the long rail with right spin. Consequently, I set this shot up on my table. I positioned the balls as set up on the table. I jacked up my cue stick to approximately 30 degrees and shot the cue ball with a controlled firm stroke thru approximately 3/5ths of the 3-ball with right spin. I found after striking the cue ball, that it had a right curve (similar to a masse) to it as it approached the long rail, and upon striking the long rail, the right spin caused the cue ball to go behind the cluster of three balls nearest my opponent's pocket.

The table lay out was a seemingly very tough position to be in, nevertheless it was somewhat easy to get out of if you knew how to shoot the shot as it presented itself. That's what is great about these WWYD posts. You learn shots. The Latin aphorism is so true in pool and billiards, "scientia potentia est." Transcribed in English as "knowledge is power."

 

[Tom Wirth]

You might try this.

 

[unoperro]

If I remember correctly our Bob Jewett and Dr. Dave have a 10X fuller video about shooting thru a frozen ball.

As for this shot , drag out the bridge and kick foot rail long rail head rail long rail and back down in front of opponents pocket.

 

[Tom Wirth]

Sorry if this one is not good enough for you, Mike.
So maybe I should take it down and you can put Bob's or Dave's video up instead.

 

[unoperro]

Sorry if this one is not good enough for you, Mike.
So maybe I should take it down and you can put Bob's or Dave's video up instead.

You posted as I was typing.
Your video is very well done and informing.

 

[Kybanks]

I'm definitely kicking this cb twice long rail towards my opponent's pockets. I'm left handed so its easy to reach. I'm also gonna aim a little short and try to nudge that wired combo.

 

[Tom Wirth]

I like the 5 rail kick too but I would use the short rail first with left english.
Foot rail, far side rail, (above the side pocket), top rail, (near side rail approx. the third diamond), and hopefully short to the far side rail, then to the foot rail behind the dead combo. On a diamond table it may actually come up short enough the bump the combo disrupting it and avoid the intentional foul.
This is a clear and predictable path which leads to a great outcome if.....
There is a definite scratch possibility but I believe it to be the best of all the poor options.

Tom

 

[cincy_kid]

5 or 6 rail kick to your long rail with LHE, it goes 3 rails around to their long rail and settle on bottom rail behind 13.

 

[lll]

I like the 5 rail kick too but I would use the short rail first with left english.
Foot rail, far side rail, (above the side pocket), top rail, (near side rail approx. the third diamond), and hopefully short to the far side rail, then to the foot rail behind the dead combo. On a diamond table it may actually come up short enough the bump the combo disrupting it and avoid the intentional foul.
This is a clear and predictable path which leads to a great outcome if.....
There is a definite scratch possibility but I believe it to be the best of all the poor options.

Tom

like this ????