Official 2020 One Pocket Hall of Fame Nominations

[Miller]

Dippy Dave? Give me a break!!!!!! K

yeah, that's just loony steve.....

 

[Miller]

I’ve been clamoring for Bustamante for a few years….glad to see others recognize his resume as well.

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Regarding categories #2 and #3, I’m gonna be a bit of a homer here and submit the following nominations…..

*John “The Gentleman” Henderson. Played, road-tripped, with or against all the legends of a couple different eras. Still gets it on. Had a regional publication promoting pool. For a lifetime hardcore scuff, one of the genuinely nicest guys you could meet – hence the moniker “Gentleman John” (that doesn’t mean that he still won’t take your cash…). Actively participates on onepocket.org and readily shares knowledge gained over decades of hard-leaned experience.

*Frank “Da Barber” Almanza. An absolutely feared player in his prime (which was a long prime) – can still beat anyone in a short race. Like Hendy – forgettaboutit – one of the nicest, accommodating gentleman you could meet who conducts himself like a “man’s man” – the kind of guy you can’t help but to look up to. Also, actively participates on onepocket.org and readily shares knowledge gained over decades of hard-leaned experience.

*Tom “Tom-Tom” Wirth. Pick up the phone and call Tom – regarding a match-up question, a bit of pool room wisdom how to handle a situation, or a question about the game itself – you will get an answer with deliberate sincerity. One of the best sticks on the east coast for years with a couple nice tourney Ws under his belt. “One Pocket – A game of Controlled Aggression” is the best work to date on the subject, let alone the educational YouTube videos. Also, actively participates on onepocket.org and readily shares knowledge gained over decades of hard-leaned experience.

*Steve “New Hampshire Steve” Booth. Started and administers the quintessential internet site on one pocket that has at least a thousand hits daily. Founder of the One Pocket and Bank Pool Hall of Fame. Has conducted numerous interviews with the greats that is memorialized for anyone to read along with being one of the great pool photographers actively at work. In the process of writing/publishing a book on the subject of one pocket (if he ever quits fukn around it gets it done…..). The popularity that the game of one pocket has today is and should – to some degree, be rightfully attributed to Steve.

-Miller

 

[BRLongArm]

For active players, I'll put a few out there that will eventually get in the Hall of Fame:

1. Alex Pagulayan-First ballot Hall of Famer, second only to Efren in tournament dominance, unmatched today in gambling. Nobody is looking to play Alex.
2. Francisco Bustamante-Playing the best one pocket of his life, 2 time defending one pocket champion at Derby City, just dominated a prime Corey Deuel. I don't know about an arbitrary 20 year rule, but Busty is a living legend and HAS to be in our Hall of Fame or it doesn't mean much. This year or next year, he has to be inducted. Oh, and he could go in banks too.
3. Corey Deuel-42 years old, has been a dominant tournament player, a Derby City champion, though probably has another 5 years of peak play. No hurry for Corey.
4. Gabe Owen-41 now, Derby City champion, legendary action player.

 

[Jimmy B]

Johnny 'Irish' Lineen and Marcel Camp... Not voting for anyone else until they go in.

 

[stevelomako]

Had James Walden been nominated and supported by others, he would have been given consideration on one or more of our One Pocket ballots. You must have overlooked him lol. But Lifetime Pool in Action is still the One Pocket Hall of Fame -- that is not a joke Steve.

Regarding the other names you nominated, here are my thoughts:

• Tony Chohan -- probably does not meet the 20 year threshold. I met him in 2004 and he was a good young player but still emerging.
• Richie Richeson -- he probably does qualify, although as much as I respect him, he is a little below the top tier players wouldn't you say?
• “Hamburger” Pete Porter -- I don't know him
• Paul Bruseloff -- we have had him on the short list for lifetime pool in action. He told me he doesn't want the spotlight essentially. If you can talk him into coming and accepting the award he could jump back up to the top of the short list.
• Charles Cook -- Bucktooth -- yes he would fit given the action element
• Sammy Blumenthal -- his name has probably come up in the past, but how much was One Pocket his main game? I thought it was Snooker
• Marcel Camp -- perennial legacy candidate who by all accounts was an ambassador for the game; just tough to get traction and he had peers that are already in that our members apparently felt were a little better qualified. Not every really good candidate gets in.
• “Dippy” Dave Peat -- probably does not meet the 20 year threshold
• Alex Pagulayan -- great candidate and 2020 this year he is indeed eligible!
• Dennis Orcullo -- I doubt meets the 20 year threshold
• James Leone -- Is he the owner of Buffalo's? I don't know much about him but his room sure gets high marks!

I don’t know why you brought up the (lol), what’s funny about it? James was the top dog gambling at one pocket for quite a while.

No, I never overlooked James as a nomination LOL matter of fact I know I brought him up often LOL

I brought up Marcel Camp every year LOL

Look back at all the threads started every year, people get on and nominate people that are already in WTF! LOL

So just put someone in at some category just to put them in??? LOL




That’s why I added some stupid names in with my legitimate ones, looks like it’s going to turn into a half ass joke instead of really meaning something.

 

[stevelomako]

Dippy Dave? Give me a break!!!!!! K

What? Huh?

He played one pocket didn’t he?

 

[stevelomako]

yeah, that's just loony steve.....

Don’t know how to multi quote yet with this new forum software

Don’t you know how good Dippy played?

 

[TxOnePocket]

Alex Pagulayan imo should be the no brainer, i'm not the most senior member on this forum, at least in post count but if no one has nominated him yet, I gladly do. One of the all around good guys in the game.

 

[lll]

If we have any Hall of Famers that could give us a narrative on Marcel Camp; his skills, his pedigree, who he beat that would be very helpful in determining his nomination.

Marcel Camp (deceased)– One of the early great One Pocket players credited with influencing the rise in One Pocket in the years before Johnston City. Camp was a solid all around player and action legend.
joe
i will try to copy and paste from the interview section the respect given to marcel camp by the old timers

 

[Dennis "Whitey" Young]

Johnny Ervolino, the only two time US Open One Pocket Champion during an era when many of our OP HOFer's were in their prime.
I, 2nd Lineen and Camp! Whitey

 

[NH Steve]

If we have any Hall of Famers that could give us a narrative on Marcel Camp; his skills, his pedigree, who he beat that would be very helpful in determining his nomination.

This is an issue for me, since I am responsible for writing up a bio and trying to locate a family descendant to accept the honor.

 

[NH Steve]

I don’t know why you brought up the (lol), what’s funny about it? James was the top dog gambling at one pocket for quite a while.

No, I never overlooked James as a nomination LOL matter of fact I know I brought him up often LOL

I brought up Marcel Camp every year LOL

Look back at all the threads started every year, people get on and nominate people that are already in WTF! LOL

So just put someone in at some category just to put them in??? LOL




That’s why I added some stupid names in with my legitimate ones, looks like it’s going to turn into a half ass joke instead of really meaning something.

That's just you trying to do that Steve. I tried to be understated in rolling with your half serious/half ridiculous/ plus you also threw in an extra disdainful twist to your above nomination post. I guess my attempt to lighten my reply didn't work with you. I appreciate the serious part of your nomination post for sure, but not so much the other parts because that is you trying to turn something that really means a lot into "a half ass joke". There is no need for that.

 

[stevelomako]

That's just you trying to do that Steve. I tried to be understated in rolling with your half serious/half ridiculous/ plus you also threw in an extra disdainful twist to your above nomination post. I guess my attempt to lighten my reply didn't work with you. I appreciate the serious part of your nomination post for sure, but not so much the other parts because that is you trying to turn something that really means a lot into "a half ass joke". There is no need for that.

Steve, as much as it hurts me because you know I always have and still do care about this site and the HOF, a lot of people think it’s turning or trying to turn into a joke.

I’m sorry I don’t have the money like I used to have to contribute every year but I still always offered my help and never asked anything in return. I know $250 isn’t always a lot but I did other stuff at the DCC and it’s all I could put in every year.


In addition to the money I gave you, every year it would cost me $500-$1000 for the AZ/1pocket room at DCC. The $1500 Greg charged for the room got paid by me even if all the money wasn’t sent by everyone ahead of time. I would let people pay at the site if that’s all they could do (don’t think they all did either).

The $500 for the One Pocket challenge final at Executive West came out of my pocket because everyone was so rightly pissed at Gabe and the TV table debacle that I just did that on my own.


I went back and read a lot of old threads on the nominations each year and much of it is the same year after year.



Something that’s odd...why does someone alive have to be there to be recognized?

Why does there have to be a family member alive or be there for someone to be recognized?

Does not being at a dinner diminish what they have done or accomplished?

I guess you don’t have to induct someone every year just for the sake of doing it.


The casino isn’t worth 2 dead flies for doing the dinner at the last few years. I know they acted like they were doing you a favor so screw them and I felt like that a few years ago.


If you want to move some of this discussion to the members section I get it but these are the kind of things that need to be addressed sometimes.

It’d be nice if there was a spot to see all the voting threads for each year to see who was being voted on and all the nominations threads for each year to see what was discussed.

I looked back at a few but most members either aren’t going to look back or they don’t know how.

 

[NH Steve]

Thank you Steve for your measured and thoughtful response; I appreciate that a lot more than the “joke” line. Indeed you were very supportive early on and I appreciate that a lot — I certainly hope I expressed that repeatedly over the years!

Yes, it would make a big difference for the dinner experience whether a living player or family member of a deceased player could attend or not. Also whether there was anyone available to sort of “speak for” the inductee. And definitely, if a living player declined to attend — other than for major health reasons for example —but if it was just because they chose not to,I would consider that a major snub and would rather they just up front declined the induction if they don’t wish to be recognized in the manner we have chosen to recognize our honorees.

 

[gulfportdoc]

If we have any Hall of Famers that could give us a narrative on Marcel Camp; his skills, his pedigree, who he beat that would be very helpful in determining his nomination.

Joe, lots of the old timers raved about Camp. I looked through a couple of Steve's interviews, and here are a few comments about Camp's high level play:

"OnePocket.org: Did you get connected with a particular player at that point to learn the game?
Danny DiLiberto: I watched. The closest I had to learning from someone was with Marcel Camp in Florida. He was a great player of the old days, and he played every game well. I learned a lot from him, but it was mostly from watching and noting what he did, and then I added stuff. …"
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"OnePocket.org: How about Marcel Camp, did you ever play him?
Eddie Taylor: Oh I knew Marcel real well. He came to my hometown and put on a show, and he was the US Snooker Champion at that time, and I played him an exhibition. We played two out of three and he beat me of course. At that time, Snooker was pretty much my best game other than Banks."
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From Fred Bentivegna’s book, The “Encyclopedia” of Pool Hustlers: “[Marcel] Camp left a lifetime legacy of world class one pocket. For many years he played as well as anybody. I hve a very short list of players who I think really knew how to play the game of one pocket correctly. Camp is near the top of that list. I learned plenty just watching him. He knew the game of one pocket as well as anybody alive...”
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I also recall Squirrel Carpenter praising Camp's 1P abilities, but I can't recall where it was. I don't think that Squirrel and Steve ever got together for an interview.

~Doc

 

[lll]

Joe, lots of the old timers raved about Camp. I looked through a couple of Steve's interviews, and here are a few comments about Camp's high level play:

"OnePocket.org: Did you get connected with a particular player at that point to learn the game?
Danny DiLiberto: I watched. The closest I had to learning from someone was with Marcel Camp in Florida. He was a great player of the old days, and he played every game well. I learned a lot from him, but it was mostly from watching and noting what he did, and then I added stuff. …"
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"OnePocket.org: How about Marcel Camp, did you ever play him?
Eddie Taylor: Oh I knew Marcel real well. He came to my hometown and put on a show, and he was the US Snooker Champion at that time, and I played him an exhibition. We played two out of three and he beat me of course. At that time, Snooker was pretty much my best game other than Banks."
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From Fred Bentivegna’s book, The “Encyclopedia” of Pool Hustlers: “[Marcel] Camp left a lifetime legacy of world class one pocket. For many years he played as well as anybody. I hve a very short list of players who I think really knew how to play the game of one pocket correctly. Camp is near the top of that list. I learned plenty just watching him. He knew the game of one pocket as well as anybody alive...”
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I also recall Squirrel Carpenter praising Camp's 1P abilities, but I can't recall where it was. I don't think that Squirrel and Steve ever got together for an interview.

~Doc

Doc
thanks for looking those quotes up and posting them.
i hope it’s enough for everyone to vote for marcel camp

 

[BRLongArm]

Thank you doc. I think that will help a lot of us members who don't have any memory of him decide.

 

[catkins]

I do really think steve boothe woudl be a great addition to hall of fame. I think alex pagulayan is a shoe in I also like the idea of john henderson not only for years of playing high level one pocket but the work he has done to promote pool for his entire life.

 

[androd]

I remember writing extensively about Camp, Camp and Fat, Camp and Beanie. Freddie and I had some posts about Camp.
I'm sure those are long gone, Taylor told me Camp was the best money player of all, said he'd play one game for all he had, however much it was, play his top speed. I voted for him every time but we both got too old.

 

[TxOnePocket]

I do really think steve boothe would be a great addition to hall of fame. I think alex pagulayan is a shoe in I also like the idea of john henderson not only for years of playing high level one pocket but the work he has done to promote pool for his entire life.

Great post