Unforgiven

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Freddy,

Watch it again, it's a very fine film. I'm watching it now:).

P.S. I also hate watching Gus die again:(.

Some quotes from it:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096639/quotes

Well, Androd was right with his quote. Then what was the line Gus left with that bartender he beat up. It wasnt on that quote list. "Wont tolerate sass from no bartender?" Sumtin like dat?

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Well, Androd was right with his quote. Then what was the line Gus left with that bartender he beat up. It wasnt on that quote list. "Wont tolerate sass from no bartender?" Sumtin like dat?

Beard

After breaking the bartender's nose on the bar Gus takes out his pistol and turns the guys head around to look at the picture on the wall. He says:

Now if you'd care to turn around you can see how we looked when we were younger and the people around here wanted to make us senators. Now the thing we didn't put up then was dawdling service and as you can see we still don't put up with it.

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As they're riding away from the bar Call tells Gus that he's lucky they didn't throw him in jail and Gus replies "well, it ain't much of a crime whacking a surly bartender".

Here's a little enjoyable tribute to Gus:[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KecAZoW0Uc[/ame]


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After breaking the bartender's nose on the bar Gus takes out his pistol and turns the guys head around to look at the picture on the wall. He says:

Now if you'd care to turn around you can see how we looked when we were younger and the people around here wanted to make us senators. Now the thing we didn't put up then was dawdling service and as you can see we still don't put up with it.

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As they're riding away from the bar Call tells Gus that he's lucky they didn't throw him in jail and Gus replies "well, it ain't much of a crime whacking a surly bartender". The TV series, Justified, has got a little taste of that legacy.

Here's a little enjoyable tribute to Gus:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KecAZoW0Uc


Dennis

Jeez, was he good or what?! He still brings me to tears.

Beard

The Duke, Duvall and Clint, nuttin like dem anymore. Maybe Timothy Oliphant has got a chance if he can get some parts.
 

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Lonesome Dove was so good and so moving that I cant take watching it again. There were just too many melancholy, moving crying scenes. Stringing up their old road pal. The death scene. Bringing Augustus's body back home, etc. It was a great, great series, and a great, great book. Nothing else he wrote came close to Lonesome Dove, however.

Shane, on the other hand, if I ever land on it changing channels, I cant go any further.

Same goes for, The Wild Bunch, Rio Bravo, She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, and Tombstone.

Westerns were always my favorites, and Robert Duvall is as good as anybody in them.

Beard

"Yer a low down Yankee liar!" "We want Angel!" "There's a man's work ahead of us, lads." "I'm yer huckleberry." "Yeah, and nobody ran in here either, did they!" "He was fast, Joey, fast with a gun." "You better pull that smoke-wagon!" All-time great movie lines.

Shane was so good it was copied by no other than Clint Eastwood in "Pale Rider." Also, they shot the gunshot sounds into a garbage can to enhance the sound to be more real. Prior to this, guns in westerns sounded like pop guns. This was widely copied for decades.

This movie defined the ethos of a generation--my generation.The clarity of the line between good and evil, the shear innocence of the dialogue, and the purity of the characters are what stands out to me when I watch it now. I was Brandon DeWilde's age when I saw it for the first time in the theater.
 

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Jeez, was he good or what?! He still brings me to tears.

Beard

The Duke, Duvall and Clint, nuttin like dem anymore. Maybe Timothy Oliphant has got a chance if he can get some parts.

Duvall as Gus still brings me to tears, laughing or crying. We're gonna miss him when he's gone:(.

I quit caring about the Duke when I heard his political views and to a young man who absolutely loved John Wayne that's a big thing. If it was up to him we'd still be in Vietnam watching our children & grandchildren die for no reason.

I do own War Wagon and The McClintocks...gotta love the mud scene in The McClintocks. I also own Rooster Cogburn but haven't watched it in years.

Clint Eastwood taught us all about another side of the western: the loner, the high plains drifter, the man with no name, who survives alone and with help from nobody. He made the western distinctive in his own right and so did Leone.

Timothy Olyphant is great in HBO's Deadwood, I haven't seen him in Justified or anything else for that matter. Deadwood ends up starring George Hearst, father of William Randolph Hearst who was the main character in Orson Welles' "Citizen Kane". He was the grandfather of Patty Hearst (the S.L.A.'s "Tania"). We all know her.

Here are a couple of scenes from Deadwood featuring Olyphant as Seth Bullock (a real person):

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8JJWIJMB-A&feature=related[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HwS_m2Kh9s&feature=related[/ame]

Point being that Olyphant is very good, as you say.

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All those guys that have been listed were great in the westerns, none better than Eastwood I think. But Gene Hackman has had some great performances, too, like in The Quick And The Dead (great western I never thought I'd like) and, of course, in Unforgiven.

"I guess you think I'm kickin' you, huh Bob?"

"Duck, I sez." ;)

Another guy who was really great was Charles Bronson, who goes all the way back to "Have Gun, Will Travel." He could play a white guy, an injun, or a half-breed. Check him out in Red Sun, a sort of predecessor to "Sukiyaki Western Django".

I could go one forever. Somebody stop me! :D

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Bronson's show was "Man With A Camera"...

Have Gun Will Travel/Paladin - was Richard Boone.

Watched them all the time when I was a kid.

- Ghost


PS, And I loved the ocean-related shows when I was a kid too - Sea Hunt and Adventures in Paradise...I'm sure any of you guys 60 or older remember those two shows.
 
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I don't recall seeing Bronson in 'Have Gun . . .'

Bronson was a guest host in 5 episodes of HGWT.


Wickipedia said:
Early roles, 1951–1959

After the end of World War II, Bronson worked at many odd jobs until joining a theatrical group in Philadelphia. He later shared an apartment in New York with Jack Klugman while both were aspiring to play on the stage. In 1950, he married and moved to Hollywood where he enrolled in acting classes and began to find small roles. Bronson's first film role — an uncredited one — was as a sailor in You're in the Navy Now in 1951. Other early screen appearances were in Pat and Mike, Miss Sadie Thompson and House of Wax (as Vincent Price's mute henchman Igor).

In 1952, Bronson boxed in a ring with Roy Rogers in Rogers' show Knockout. He appeared on an episode of the Red Skelton Show as a boxer in a skit with Skelton playing "Cauliflower McPugg". In 1954, Bronson made a strong impact in Drum Beat as a murderous Modoc warrior, Captain Jack, who enjoys wearing the tunics of soldiers whom he has killed. Eventually captured by Alan Ladd's character, he is sent to the gallows.[citation needed]

In 1954, during the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC) proceedings, he changed his surname from Buchinsky to Bronson at the suggestion of his agent, who feared that an Eastern European surname might damage his career.[14] He took his inspiration from the Bronson Gate at Paramount Studios, situated on the corner of Melrose Avenue and Bronson Street.[citation needed]

Bronson made several appearances on television in the 1950s and 1960s, including a 1952 segment, with fellow guest star Lee Marvin, of Biff Baker, U.S.A., an espionage series on CBS starring Alan Hale, Jr.. Bronson had the lead role of the episode "The Apache Kid" of the syndicated crime drama Sheriff of Cochise.

He guest-starred in the short-lived situation comedy, Hey, Jeannie! and in three episodes of Alfred Hitchcock Presents: And So Died Riabouchinska (1956), There Was an Old Woman (1956), and The Woman Who Wanted to Live (1962). He starred alongside Elizabeth Montgomery in The Twilight Zone episode "Two" (1961) and played a killer named Crego in Gunsmoke (1956). He appeared in five episodes of Have Gun - Will Travel (1957–63).

Many of his filmographies state that he appeared in the 1958 Gary Cooper film Ten North Frederick, although this is a matter of some dispute.[15] In 1958, he was cast in his first lead role in Roger Corman's Machine-Gun Kelly, a low-budget, though well received, gangster film.

He scored the lead in his own ABC's detective series Man with a Camera (from 1958 to 1960), in which he portrayed Mike Kovac, a former combat photographer freelancing in New York City. Frequently, Kovac was involved in dangerous assignments for the New York Police Department.[citation needed]

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...and the two tv western series that were my top favorites when I was a kid, and that launched the careers of Clint and Steve McQueen...

Rawhide (with the great theme song music) and Wanted: Dead or Alive

- Ghost
 

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I don't recall seeing Bronson in 'Have Gun . . .'

Here's one episode, vapros, where he plays the outlaw Manfred Holt.

"Mister, you killed nine men. I never heard anyone say you made allowances for your opponent's ability with a gun."

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ7f-Pvp1R0[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A_ETte6Jhs&feature=relmfu[/ame]

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...and the two tv western series that were my top favorites when I was a kid, and that launched the careers of Clint and Steve McQueen...

Rawhide (with the great theme song music) and Wanted: Dead or Alive - Ghost

For me...The Rifleman (I liked Lucas McCain's gun better than Josh Randall's), Gunsmoke, HGWT, and...Kung Fu (a great western!)

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It's been a well-known rumor to me and many others that Chuck Connors made a gay-porn, 8mm film back in the day. It's not hard to find if you care to. I've unfortunately seen pics, long ago and I wish them forgotten:(.

Freddy says Richard Boone (Paladin) was a little sweet also. I've never heard that till now.
fred bentivegna said:
Lest we forget, George C Scott (the most devastating find for me -- you can forget about his marriage to that hot actress.) and Have Gun Will Travel, Paladin.

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It's been a well-known rumor to me and many others that Chuck Connors made a gay-porn, 8mm film back in the day. It's not hard to find if you care to. I've unfortunately seen pics, long ago and I wish them forgotten:(.

Freddy says Richard Boone (Paladin) was a little sweet also. I've never heard that till now.

Originally Posted by fred bentivegna
Lest we forget, George C Scott (the most devastating find for me -- you can forget about his marriage to that hot actress.) and Have Gun Will Travel, Paladin.

Dennis

While a gullible dunce like DickBrain gets his Hollywood gossip from People Mag and the like, I made the acquaintance of several movie producers, and my backer for years was Mike Weldon, the famous porno producer. I have seen, and Mike verified, that The Rifleman made a gay porno short. I forgot if it was before or after his Major League ball player years.
However, the general consensus was that Chuckie Boy wasnt actually gay, but maybe a switch-hitter at best. Mike said he was probably just broke and trying his best to stay in Hollywood and get into the movies. Porno wasnt so widely distributed back then.
Then why do it? Why did Paris and Kim K do it?

As far as Richard Boned, I mean Boone, watch the HGWT episodes that Dennis put up, with a critical eye this time. Watch some of the body stances he unconsciously takes. A little too perfectly clean and prissy to be a gunfighting tush-hog wouldnt you think?
Plus I actually met a gay guy that said he got down with him.
In case nobody knew this before, Bensingers was dead smack in the heart of Lavender Town.
Before anybody casts any aspersions at the ole Beard, Bensingers was also smack dab in the middle of hillbilly, runaway girl town.

Beard

Just as a matter of FYI, For Your Information. All Porno was 8mm in the 60s and 70s. Average production cost for a 20 minute short that might include Harry Reems, or any other single big porno star then was 5 - 10k. Big stars received $1000 day, the rest of the cast $200 a day. And yes, I did once write a script that came close to being made. it would have taken place in a factory of a friend, but insurance considerations nixed it. And no, I no longer have it. Salaries shot up after, Behind The Green Door, Deep Throat, and a couple of others got national attention. My backer, Mike, along with the Mitchell Brothers, invented Lap Dancing. They had a joint in Frisco that employed 200 girls that all had to PAY $50 a night to work. Admission to get in was $7 and they never closed. Add that up.
 
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In case nobody knew this before, Bensingers was dead smack in the heart of Lavender Town.
Before anybody casts any aspersions at the ole Beard, Bensingers was also smack dab in the middle of hillbilly, runaway girl town.

Beard


No one can cast aspersions like a has been bank pool player or a brain dead cowboy when it comes to rumors or unsubstantiated facts. Beard denies that he likes Lavender but goes on to say he is a runaway, hillbilly, girl. WTF!!
Maybe that is why he is known for "ducking under the table".
:lol:lol:lol
 

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In case nobody knew this before, Bensingers was dead smack in the heart of Lavender Town.
Before anybody casts any aspersions at the ole Beard, Bensingers was also smack dab in the middle of hillbilly, runaway girl town.

Beard


No one can cast aspersions like a has been bank pool player or a brain dead cowboy when it comes to rumors or unsubstantiated facts. Beard denies that he likes Lavender but goes on to say he is a runaway, hillbilly, girl. WTF!!
Maybe that is why he is known for "ducking under the table".
:lol:lol:lol

Your last line made absolutely no sense. You shouldnt do any posting until the "hit" wears off a little.:sorry

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Then why do it? Why did Paris and Kim K do it?

As far as Richard Boned, I mean Boone, watch the HGWT episodes that Dennis put up, with a critical eye this time. Watch some of the body stances he unconsciously takes. A little too perfectly clean and prissy to be a gunfighting tush-hog wouldnt you think?

Beard

I don't know, man. A lot of male TV actors moved kind of like that back then. Check out the cat who played Bat Masterson and Broderick Crawford in Highway Patrol. It is plausible to attribute it to the acting style of the time. A lot of it is similar to what you'd see on stage in the theatre.

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Your last line made absolutely no sense. You shouldnt do any posting until the "hit" wears off a little.:sorry

BEard


Freddy,

I guess SkeezerBill missed the part where we both wrote that "we've seen" the pics. We're not "casting aspersions". You cannot mistake that square-jawed lovely for anyone else either. I thank God to this day that I saw no genitalia in the magazine that published the photos. I think it was High Society or Hustler and I'm talking over 30 years ago I believe. I wish I had never seen the pics.

P.S. His entire post, as usual, made no sense. When he comes back down he'll have something stupid to say to us, bet on it.

Dennis
 
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