Scott Frost vs. S.V.B. 2011 D.C.C.

lll

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i think the obvious shot is move the 9 to your side and put whitey up table
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downside is leaving a bank into the line of balls moving them to svbs side:mad:
 

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another shot i like is to hit the ball on the spot dead on and stop the q frozen to the 2nd ball in the line
he probably will have to move the 9 for you
or come off the ball you froze him to
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I'm with lll. Move the 9 ball across and take the cb up the long rail. In other circumstances I might be tempted to over-bank the stripe on the head rail, but not with a 4-1 lead and a fairly good safe available. I don't see anything better here.
 

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Another option might be to bank the 9 up table and gently snuggle the cue ball against the wall of balls.
 

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I would probably go off the bottom of the 15 very thinly placing the cue ball where he has to shoot off the rail close to his hole.
 

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timdog24 said:
Another option might be to bank the 9 up table and gently snuggle the cue ball against the wall of balls.
I like your option. It takes a ball out of play for him and makes it difficult to find a safe place for the cue ball. Forces him to play safe and not get aggressive.
 

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I like Lenny's shot. It might open up another ball or two towards scott's side and also protects what is already there. I also like timdog24's option, even placing the 9 ball by scott's side pocket or a little closer. SVB would have no option but to push to the bottom rail. This is probably the shot for me.
 

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I like thinning the 9 ball over to my side but i woul hit it with enough speed to bring the cue ball back down table. I dont like disturbing the 4 spotted balls once they are opened it gives SVB manymore options to shoot at. keith
 

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Definitely

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timdog24 said:
Another option might be to bank the 9 up table and gently snuggle the cue ball against the wall of balls.
Strong. Unless you hit it so hard that you blast a hole thru the balls lined up, whatever the oppo does is going to leave you a better shot than you just had.

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timdog24 said:
Another option might be to bank the 9 up table and gently snuggle the cue ball against the wall of balls.
That's what came to my mind also. Removes a ball from opponent's side, pushes it up table and leaves nothing. All good with a 4-1 lead.
 

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fred bentivegna said:
Strong. Unless you hit it so hard that you blast a hole thru the balls lined up, whatever the oppo does is going to leave you a better shot than you just had.

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I like it a little better than thinning the 9 to my side and going up table like III mentioned because it leaves no air. SVB is forced to play a very passive shot, probably thinning the stack and putting the cue ball on the bottom rail. If you leave him up table, you are still in good position, but he a lot more has options. He can see all the balls. He can move a ball to his side, maybe cross bank a ball if it lays right, etc.
Unless, of course you butcher the shot like Beard said and go through the stack. :eek:
 

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timdog24 said:
I like it a little better than thinning the 9 to my side and going up table like III mentioned because it leaves no air. SVB is forced to play a very passive shot, probably thinning the stack and putting the cue ball on the bottom rail. If you leave him up table, you are still in good position, but he a lot more has options. He can see all the balls. He can move a ball to his side, maybe cross bank a ball if it lays right, etc.
Unless, of course you butcher the shot like Beard said and go through the stack. :eek:
it looked to me you would have to cut the 9 to the right to get the q to the line of balls leaving it on svbs side and you would have to hit it harder maybe so you couldnt "snuggle"up so easily

i liked the idea of using the lineup as a place to leave the q that was the reasoning behind my other shot choice
 

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Frank Almanza said:
P.S. It looks like Scott might have been the one that spotted that last ball, favoring his pocket a bit.
That line of four balls had been barely hit on SVB's shot. The 2 & 15 were no longer frozen I believe.
 

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timdog24 said:
Another option might be to bank the 9 up table and gently snuggle the cue ball against the wall of balls.
This is what Scott shot and he floated the cueball gently to the 2 and just hit the 8 with it.

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Here's how he left it for SVB:

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skin implied i need a new opthomolgist and he could be right:D
somehow i didnt think the angle was right to do that:eek: :mad: :(
at least i feel good that that was the first thing i wanted to do:)
 

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Cowboy Dennis said:
This is what Scott shot and he floated the cueball gently to the 2 and just hit the 8 with it.

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Here's how he left it for SVB:

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I notice a subtle difference between the way I diagrammed this shot (post 11) and the way Frost actually played it. The difference being that Scott hit it a little harder than I diagrammed, but more straight ahead -- since he was hitting the shot with less of a cut angle, that meant he could hit it a little harder and still just snuggle up to the line-up -- and hitting it harder left the object ball a little further downtable on his own side. Good thinking, Scott.
 
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