Billy, thats a good shot but hate to burst your bubble but Ervolino showed me that the first week he stayed with me. Its hard to tell from this angle if it lays good but if it does im sure Efren would shoot itFrank, just envision banking the 4 ball toward Reyes pocket, and caroming off the 12 ball with a draw stroke. If the 12 ball is positioned an inch or so higher than the 4 ball the natural path the cue ball will take is down table, on Scott's side of the table. It's just playing position by using the 12 ball to carom off of by drawing the ball.
"His front tracks are headed for a cold water well, his back tracks are covered with snow" Waylon Jennings.I thought you might like it. By the way have you been reading some of the Beards absurdities in the bank pool forum? It's really hilarious.:lol
Yes,:frus but much more entertaining than his homeboy "Artie" That's what keeps me interested. Plus we occasionally will get a visit from the Ghost. which is always good for a break. adding a little stability (very little) to the debate."His front tracks are headed for a cold water well, his back tracks are covered with snow" Waylon Jennings.
Tough to tell how those two balls (the 4 and the stripe) are laying. I thought about banking the 4 ball two rails and swinging my cue ball two rails to Scott's side. I can't tell if that's really available though.everyone has been alittle shy giving choice options lately
hacker i know you are not shy
what would you shoot here
and /or what do you think efren shot here?
Your shot is as good as any from this position, if hit well you figure to be in a much better position next time back at the table. But lets take a look at the problems that exist for Frost, in this position.Maybe graze the 5-ball and float behind the dark solid on the foot rail?
Interesting, he said .."if the ball stops here I win"...There's only one ball (from what I can see) that he can win with from this position, it has to be the 8 ball. If he likes the 8 ball from the position he pointed to, I like it too.we all know pool can be a game of inches
as an aside prior to deciding what to shoot just as efrens cue ball came to a stop scott pointed to a spot a few inches short of where the cue ball ultimately landed and said as his cue tip pointing to the spot says
"IFTHE CUE BALL STOPS HERE I WIN"
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Or, that dark solid (you've assigned as 8-ball) is just off the rail enough for Scott to bank it one rail. Scott loves those shots and upon making that bank, he would have surely got some kind of position behind all those balls.Interesting, he said .."if the ball stops here I win"...There's only one ball (from what I can see) that he can win with from this position, it has to be the 8 ball. If he likes the 8 ball from the position he pointed to, I like it too.
Lets assume it's the 8 ball he's talking about and figure out why he would like it. As a rule of thumb, kicking at balls like the 8 ball shot is usually a bad shot. Why? Because of the return shot you leave if you miss your kick. But in this instance he has a "protector" with the 5 ball. If the kick is missed the 5 ball will block a high percentage of return banks, not all banks but a high percentage. Plus the 8 ball will block just about all banks on the 5 ball if the kick is missed So if it's worth the gamble, go for it. For Frost the reward is a possible game winner.
By the way, the correct way to kick if that's the option you choose, would be to kick using both rails and kick it off the bottom rail with a soft speed.
Ed Zachery right.Or, that dark solid (you've assigned as 8-ball) is just off the rail enough for Scott to bank it one rail. Scott loves those shots and upon making that bank, he would have surely got some kind of position behind all those balls.
But, good roll for Efren...
If that shot's available it would certainly be the better of the two options, but I was thinking it was a little low for it to be an option. With the bank available you increase your accuracy and pocket the 8 ball more often, as opposed to the kick.Maybe graze the 5-ball and float behind the dark solid on the foot rail?
Playing off the 5 ball dropping under the 8 ball looks to be a strong option from this position. Especially if the 8 ball is 1-1/2" to 2-1/2" off the bottom rail. From that position you have to like your chances of dropping under it.Thinning the 5 and hiding behind the 8 has no room for error. Kicking the 8 is way better.
I still think banking the 5 over close to the pocket or 5 into the 8 to move the 8 in front of the hole and sending the QB three rails to the other side of the table near the top right pocket would work well.