Tom,
When I first saw this DVD I stopped it before I saw the shot Scott chose, so in that regard I did see the layout as you all did; I didn't see any great shot to shoot before I ever saw what Scott shot. I say I'm biased because it appears that way, that's all.
The only place I see players constantly shoot banks and send the cueball four rails is on this site. I rarely see it on DVD's (about 115 One-Pocket DVD's) and I can only remember one person in my life who routinely shot those type shots. I will also be putting the 9 in a possible path to block that 4-railer with the cueball.
I'll post up Scott's shot in a minute.
Dennis
I have grown more conservative in my old age.:lol I actually look to duck first, as opposed to shooting now a days. It's when I look to get aggressive is when I realize that...maybe ducking is right.You're right Bill,
Saying Frost was conservative with his choice of shot isn't accurate given the situation. It is only conservative in relation to the shot I proposed which was as I stated early on a rather aggressive shot. Scott did accomplish what was necessary and that was doing away with the problem of the two ball. When trying to get out of an opponent's break it sometimes takes several innings. Scott had very little to work with in this situation. I guess I just have lost some of my patience and grown more aggressive in my old age.
Tom
I have grown more conservative in my old age.:lol I actually look to duck first, as opposed to shooting now a days. It's when I look to get aggressive is when I realize that...maybe ducking is right.
Actually Tom, I still play aggressively considering my age and skill set, however, I am more selective when doing so. As you know...it's more fun to play aggressively.
Dr. Bill
Dennis, I am surprised the three and four rail position shot isn't used more frequently than that. I have always found it to be a very effective shot for safety purposes and for position on follow-up shots. The shot does require a good feel for the table speed and knowledge of whether the table plays long or short.
I would imagine the player you are referring to might be Efren. He is a great billiard player as you undoubtedly know. I too play a fair amount of billiards and it offers a lot of confidence in shooting these types of shots. I would recommend to anyone who wishes to improve their One Pocket game to learn a few things about three cushion billiards.
The shot Scott choose to shoot is very conservative and I would not criticize his choice. He got a good portion of the job done. He has cleared the problem of the two ball.
Thanks again for the wwyd threads. I think I can speak for all of us that we get a lot out of them.
Tom
The player I refer to was a guy I played at the Rack for 10-12 hours one night many moons ago. He said his name was Larry but they called him Baltimore Bullet. A couple guys here mentioned it may have been Buddy Dennis if I recall. I don't know what Buddy looked like so I couldn't say. I remember that Red and John McCue both knew him. He went 3 & 4 rails with the cueball on those banks more than anyone I've ever seen.
I didn't think the 2 ball was a problem when I first saw this break. Like I said, I stopped the DVD and looked at the situation as you all did and I just didn't think Scott had anything aggressive to shoot and I didn't think the 2 was a problem.
Not to prove my point or anything because a shot is either correct or incorrect before it's shot but here's Sylver's reply to Frost's shot. He banked the 12 into the 10 and pocketed it in his hole. If the 12 had missed the 10 it would've hit the 13/3 and separated them. This shot could've easily been seen before Scott shot the 2 in, that's basically my problem with the 2 ball being rolled in.
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The 12 was the only ball Sylver got but still, Scott gave up two balls for no good reason that I could see before he shot. Of course, he could have rolled the 9 and turned Sylver loose on that bank with 4-rail positch and maybe Sylver would've ran 7 balls. Who knows.
Here's how he left it:
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This is the beauty of One Pocket. So many decisions to be made. One innocuous shot can turn into a monster which grows bigger and uglier for one player or the other. Got to love it!
Tom