Reyes vs. Varner 1999 D.C.C. Shot #2

[Cowboy Dennis]

Same game as last Varner/Reyes thread. Efren played safe off the 1 ball and left Varner this layout. Would you shoot the 1 ball and roll down behind the 15 or kick softly at the 15 and leave the 1 ball for a possible bank? Would you do something different?

 

[lll]

id shoot the 1 and come down behind the 15

 

[androd]

I believe I'd try to clean house from here.
Rod.

 

[NH Steve]

I can't tell for sure, but it looks like Varner can see the 6-ball cleanly -- so I'd be looking at using it to take out those near balls by Reyes' pocket -- hitting it harder than it looks like in my pic

 

[NH Steve]

I believe I'd try to clean house from here.
Rod.

Yeah, like that

 

[One Pocket Ghost]

What Rod and Steve said.

-Ghost

 

[Skin]

I believe I'd try to clean house from here.
Rod.

I'm going with da man, Rod, on this also.

btw, Rod, all of these ball-clearing shots of yours that look like what happened during the first milliseconds of the universe coming into creation , have opened my mind. I've been working harder on finding the ones that can be controlled and darned if they aren't there a lot more often than I saw before. Gracias!

[Atom smasher] Skin

 

[androd]

Yeah, like that

Steve, Looks like we're twins. I was born 2 minutes earlier.(I wish) LOL
Rod.

Rod, all of these ball-clearing shots of yours that look like what happened during the first milliseconds of the universe coming into creation , have opened my mind. I've been working harder on finding the ones that can be controlled and darned if they aren't there a lot more often than I saw before. Gracias!

[Atom smasher] Skin

Thanks for the kind words.
Rod.

 

[Cowboy Dennis]

I believe I'd try to clean house from here.
Rod.

I"m not sure if this shot was possible or not. There is no other view of it before balls are disturbed. I would think that co-commentator Billy Incardona would have mentioned this shot as a possibility, if indeed it was. He did not mention it at all. The camera does lie to us with distance & angles making something look like one thing and then maybe an overhead view makes it look completely different. Sorry, no overhead here .

Suffice to say that Nick did not shoot this pocket-clearing shot.

Dennis

 

[ace]

I might try kicking the cb with alot of draw into the 15 ball. The cb should lay down on the rail, (Chicago Mike showed this shot to me).

 

[Cowboy Dennis]

I might try kicking the cb with alot of draw into the 15 ball. The cb should lay down on the rail, (Chicago Mike showed this shot to me).

Ace,

You would have to hit the 15 perfect(dead in the face) to not scratch in the corner on that shot. Nice line drawing though .

Dennis

 

[Cowboy Dennis]

I"m not sure if this shot was possible or not. There is no other view of it before balls are disturbed. I would think that co-commentator Billy Incardona would have mentioned this shot as a possibility, if indeed it was. He did not mention it at all. The camera does lie to us with distance & angles making something look like one thing and then maybe an overhead view makes it look completely different. Sorry, no overhead here .

Suffice to say that Nick did not shoot this pocket-clearing shot.

Dennis

Given what I wrote above, does anybody care to tell what they would shoot here? Assume the 6 ball can't be hit. Varner did shoot the 1 or the 15, which one would you shoot?

 

[NH Steve]

Given what I wrote above, does anybody care to tell what they would shoot here? Assume the 6 ball can't be hit. Varner did shoot the 1 or the 15, which one would you shoot?
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I would be concerned about the scratch angle shooting the 1-ball, so I believe I would kick at the 15 lightly. Whether I played at the 1 or the 15 I'd be trying to leave the cue ball in the same area, behind the 15. Getting there just seems easier off the 15 -- yet it does leave a full length bank.

Since you've been featuring mistakes recently -- s'pose Varner scratched off of the 1?

 

[Cowboy Dennis]

Since you've been featuring mistakes recently -- s'pose Varner scratched off of the 1?

No he didn't make a mistake here, I am going to be posting some more "mistakes" shots but they will be labeled as such.

I just think this shot choice here is one of the essential choices in one-pocket. If you shoot the 1 you leave the 15 by Efrens pocket. If you kick the 15 you leave the 1 ball bank. This choice repeats itself through all the years of playing one-pocket.

Dennis

 

[sappo]

pocket the 1 ball

pocket the 1 ball

Dennis, i would pocket the 1 ball and run the cue abll down behind the 15. by pocketing the 1 ball you leave no shot on it for efrin. Sappo

 

[sappo]

pocket the 1 ball

pocket the 1 ball

Dennis, by pocketing the 1 ball you take a key ball on his side away from him. While the 15 ball is still by his pocket he his no shot on it at this point and you are in much better position than you were after the break. I feel the one pocket is like football where "field position" is a key aspect of winning. Sometimes that advantage of position has to come bit by bit and this shot is a good example of that concetp. Sappo

 

[ace]

OK....A simple shot with no fear of scratching...LOL

 

[blackeee]

I believe I'd try to clean house from here.
Rod.

That's the shot I like. Coming off the 1 is very dangerous at this point. If the shot is on it's a good pocketectomy.

 

[Cowboy Dennis]

Varner opted to softly kick the 15 ball, leaving Efren the bank on the 1.

 

[lll]

No he didn't make a mistake here, I am going to be posting some more "mistakes" shots but they will be labeled as such.

I just think this shot choice here is one of the essential choices in one-pocket. If you shoot the 1 you leave the 15 by Efrens pocket. If you kick the 15 you leave the 1 ball bank. This choice repeats itself through all the years of playing one-pocket.

Dennis

dennis in your opinion when faced with the choice above which shot do you think is better. obviosly varner went with the fifteen.
sappo liked the 1 as did myself for the same reasons
also getting rid of a bankable ball because more than likely you will be putting the q ball near efrens pocket several times in the beginning of the match and the bankable balll will be there to haunt you unless you move it.
anyone else who would like to say which shot they prefer and why please do
your comments are welcome.
ace your post #17 is the shot i like