R. Martinez vs. E. Reyes

Cowboy Dennis

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Reyes is down 6-5 and it's his shot. What would you do?

Sidenote: Both commentators feel there is room for Efren to bank the 6 ball to his side of the table above the 8 and send cueball uptable but he cannot bank it to his pocket. Hard to see on the pics. I'll take their word for it.


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1pwannabe

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Kick 1 rail softly into the 11 ball moving it towards your hole, making it is secondary and isn't the goal.
 

androd

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Bank the 11 toward his pocket with 10:30 and plenty of it. CB near center table parallel with that uptable stripe.
Try it with 4:30 you'll like it.
P.S. Very loose grip.
 

LSJohn

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Try it with 4:30 you'll like it.
P.S. Very loose grip.
If I try to reach 4:30 that close to the rail I KNOW I'll screw it up, but 3:30 worked fine. Half inch more off the rail I can do 4:30, and it's better.

Thanks.

(I use a lot of inside english, but I've been tryin' to quit ever since I found out CJ recommends it.) :heh
 

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Reyes is down 6-5 and it's his shot. What would you do?

Sidenote: Both commentators feel there is room for Efren to bank the 6 ball to his side of the table above the 8 and send cueball uptable but he cannot bank it to his pocket. Hard to see on the pics. I'll take their word for it.


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Try it with 4:30 you'll like it.
P.S. Very loose grip.
the cue ball is close to the rail
how do you get to 4:30???:confused:
 

androd

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the cue ball is close to the rail
how do you get to 4:30???:confused:
I'm sorry I didn't notice that. It's the way I hit most banks like the 11ball.
I just slept the position of the CB.
 

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Efren banked the 6 ball short and left the cueball close. It was his last shot of the game.


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I like the "Barbers" shot but I'm not sure you can execute the bank and hold the cue ball up table. Another shot is to use the short rail to bank the stripe back to your hole and you might run into the six and eight balls so as to cluster them by your hole and get the cue ball up table, hopefully snookering Martinez.
 

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I would have banked the 11 also like John mentioned but anytime I shoot this shot if I can, I am using hitting it straight 12 o'clock, maybe even 12:30 but I like high ball on these banks.

Dennis, what did Martinez do, cut the 6 and go 1 rail and run into the 8?
 

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I would have banked the 11 also like John mentioned but anytime I shoot this shot if I can, I am using hitting it straight 12 o'clock, maybe even 12:30 but I like high ball on these banks.

Dennis, what did Martinez do, cut the 6 and go 1 rail and run into the 8?
The reason I would choose the inside spinner is that I want whitey across table from that up table stripe, and straight high risks leaving it in the shooting zone.

If leave or position aren't considerations, I like it bestwith center ball, maybe a little high. I'm still experimenting with Rod's 4:30 suggestion
 

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Yes, he then 2-railed the 8.
My shot isn't any good either... for me. Works great when I hit it perfect, but that doesn't happen often enough. Needs a ton of 9 o'clock to avoid the side pocket, then has to be perfect speed to get the 11 behind those balls and CB not past the 15 enough to leave a decent shot.
 
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Serious question here
Why not slow bank the 11 1 diamond above Martinez pocket and leave cueball almost where the 11 was?

Martinez would have do or die 2 railer on the 11. Other then that has to protect
against leaving a cross over bank.

I know it isn't sexxy but it is something efren might do.
 

Cowboy Dennis

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Serious question here
Why not slow bank the 11 1 diamond above Martinez pocket and leave cueball almost where the 11 was?

Martinez would have do or die 2 railer on the 11. Other then that has to protect
against leaving a cross over bank.

I know it isn't sexxy but it is something efren might do.
If Efren shot the 11 away and left the cueball where it was then Martinez would shoot the 6 and/or 8 away. Efren needed 3 and probably didn't want to remove them from his quadrant.

Even if Efren had hit the 6 with perfect speed and put it on the rail above the 8 Martinez could just remove the 11 and put the cueball behind the 8.

He simply doesn't always know the shot in the endgame.

Dennis
 

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If Efren shot the 11 away and left the cueball where it was then Martinez would shoot the 6 and/or 8 away.

Dennis
I am saying move the 11 To 1 diamond above martinez pocket.
Would make it hard to move the 6/8 and not leave a 1 railer for efren.
 

petie

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Why not just kick in the 11 and see what you get for shape on a bank shot.
 
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