phil dade
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Thank you Dr Bill...BTW, I have owned your video for years. It is an excellent source.
Bill, I'm surprised at you. You and some of the others are mistakenly conflating being rewarded by practicing a good break shot, with being rewarded by practicing to make a ball on the break. There is no way to practice making a ball on the break. So why should a player be "rewarded" in your way of thinking when he makes a BOB? Simply breaking the balls well should be its own reward because of the tough position in which one can put his opponent.Excellent points Phil, I agree with every thing you have just said. There are players that realize that they can't compete and win against certain players and to give themselves a better chance to win they would have to develop skills in some area of the game that would give them an edge over their opponents, practicing breaking the balls to develop the perfect hit is one of those ways, why penalize a person for somkething that he's doing that is totally legal and tactical. Dr. Bill
You and some of the others are mistakenly conflating being rewarded by practicing a good break shot, with being rewarded by practicing to make a ball on the break.
~Doc
Bill, I'm surprised at you. You and some of the others are mistakenly conflating being rewarded by practicing a good break shot, with being rewarded by practicing to make a ball on the break. There is no way to practice making a ball on the break. So why should a player be "rewarded" in your way of thinking when he makes a BOB? Simply breaking the balls well should be its own reward because of the tough position in which one can put his opponent.
The other thing that tickles me is that most of the participants in this thread have taken the view of the issue through the eyes of the breaker. It's as if his "rights" ought to be protected. What about the poor bastard who is sitting there watching a ball fall into his opponent's hole on the break, and realizes he might lose the game on the basis of pure, dumb luck?
I'm no Jacobin, but shouldn't we once in awhile look after the little guy?:lol
~Doc
Bill, I'm surprised at you. You and some of the others are mistakenly conflating being rewarded by practicing a good break shot, with being rewarded by practicing to make a ball on the break. There is no way to practice making a ball on the break. So why should a player be "rewarded" in your way of thinking when he makes a BOB? Simply breaking the balls well should be its own reward because of the tough position in which one can put his opponent.
The other thing that tickles me is that most of the participants in this thread have taken the view of the issue through the eyes of the breaker. It's as if his "rights" ought to be protected. What about the poor bastard who is sitting there watching a ball fall into his opponent's hole on the break, and realizes he might lose the game on the basis of pure, dumb luck?
I'm no Jacobin, but shouldn't we once in awhile look after the little guy?:lol
~Doc
The very nature of the game dictates that you don't have rights when you aren't at the table though.
Bill, I'm surprised at you. You and some of the others are mistakenly conflating being rewarded by practicing a good break shot, with being rewarded by practicing to make a ball on the break. There is no way to practice making a ball on the break. So why should a player be "rewarded" in your way of thinking when he makes a BOB? Simply breaking the balls well should be its own reward because of the tough position in which one can put his opponent.
The other thing that tickles me is that most of the participants in this thread have taken the view of the issue through the eyes of the breaker. It's as if his "rights" ought to be protected. What about the poor bastard who is sitting there watching a ball fall into his opponent's hole on the break, and realizes he might lose the game on the basis of pure, dumb luck?
I'm no Jacobin, but shouldn't we once in awhile look after the little guy?:lol
~Doc
If we can agree that making a ball on the break happens more often on a properly executed shot,
Doc,
Isn't what you are saying a contradiction in terms?
What does one practice for, but to achieve a higher level of skill.
Skill is basically a by-product of practicing correct theory & technique.
If we can agree that making a ball on the break happens more often on a properly executed shot, then there is no argument you can present that would convince a jury of our one pocket peers that making a BOTB is just dumb luck.
It's simply the optimum result of a well struck shot!
Now if perhaps the head ball is missed and a ball is made, (which we have all seen happen on occasion), then a case could be made citing, Dumb Luck. When this happens to me, I just move on and try to chalk it up in the category of "a bad roll" which it technically is, just like getting corner hooked, when he shoulda scratched, there is nothing I can do to change it, so I don't let it bother me in the slightest. I just move on, it sometimes unnerves my opponent when I don't show a reaction to it.
For those who think its luck making a ball on the break, then I guess some are just consistently luckier than others. Why do the best players seem to be the ones who make the ball on the break? Have you ever heard that click of the balls on a one pocket break and absolutely know you hit them perfect and that either a ball was going in or your hole and/or your hole would be jammed with balls. You can hear that click only on the perfect break. Just leave the game alone and it will survive long after any of us can't play anymore.