- Jun 25, 2004
So as not to confuse the old guys here who can still see the balls:I haven't posted one in awhile, so here's one I watched the other night. Busty just left Owen in a rather routine, but effective position. What do you suppose Owen did? What would YOU do? The score is portrayed on the insert. ~Doc
Doc, you're seeing the colors differently than I, but using your numbers I shoot the 14 into about half of the left side of the stripe above it with 5 o'clock to go behind the 7. A fair chance that the 14 catches the bottom of the 15 and goes closer to my pocket.
Maybe he can't see enough of the eight to bank it. If not the eight, then I would bank the 11 three rails and follow the cue to the other end of the table.Why would anybody in their right mind do anything but bank the 8 straight-back??? You can only run out if you make it. Am I missing something?
I'm not leaving the CB on his side rail here, the shot you are suggesting Tom will definitely improve your position, but there are to many bank and escape options from where you want the CB to rest. I want the CB up table near the top right corner pocket protecting my soldiers.I don't see that there is enough room past the fourteen to bank the eight straight back and the angle past the five looks like the shot would have to be overcut and held up with a bit of english.
I'm looking at the combo bank on the fourteen-thirteen or whatever that second ball is. Now this shot look doable to me.
Here's the way I see it.
One quick question Kid,
Cincy, Your shot reeks of desperation. Why, when nearly the entire table favors you, will you play a shot which requires sending the cue ball on a wild ride around the table? You are not in any danger here, there is no need to do anything that can cause a loss of cue ball control.
Ok granted the 3 rail is not routine, but I'm more comfortable shooting it than shooting the 14 into the 11 and trying for the results your looking for. The angle is bad, you must cut the combo quite a bit to get the 11 into the gap and that alone plus the speed required to send the 11 up and back prohibits the CB from coming to rest where you show it. Take a closer look and see what you think?Jeff, Oh Contraire!
First of all. This is a shot with the primary intention of making the bank and running out the game. I'm playing shape here. As far as giving up return banks, I don't see a great risk here, and the reward for making this shot is well worth the effort. If you're worried about the final resting place for the cue ball, fine, there are a few other points you can leave the rock and still play this shot and maintain shape on another ball.
The three rail shot on the fifteen must be hit extremely hard if you expect to run the cue ball through it and continue up table and on the opposite side rail. From the position of the cue ball, that's a neat trick. One well beyond my capabilities and what happens if this shot is not hit as precisely as needed? whoops! Sell out in, oh maybe four possible ways.
I have to disagree with you again here, Jeff. The shot can be hit almost full with a tip of right hand english. That will twist the fourteen into the proper line for the bank and allow me to control the cue ball far better than you suggest.Ok granted the 3 rail is not routine, but I'm more comfortable shooting it than shooting the 14 into the 11 and trying for the results your looking for. The angle is bad, you must cut the combo quite a bit to get the 11 into the gap and that alone plus the speed required to send the 11 up and back prohibits the CB from coming to rest where you show it. Take a closer look and see what you think?