Interestingly enough, this exact shot came up for me a few months ago.
It might not seem like it, but if you cut bank the 11 to your hole with inside english (9 oclock) and pocket speed, the 8 ball and 5 carom and bank off your opponents long rail, back over to your side and whitey goes uptable and back off the short endrail to leave a shot on the 8 or the 5.
It takes a little practice to convince yourself that the shot works, but it can be quite predictable.
I would not shoot this if I need just one ball, but I would if I needed 2 or 3.
Our own Lenny Marshall showed me this shot, so I have to give the credit to him
Thanks.
Bernie.
Interestingly enough, this exact shot came up for me a few months ago.
It might not seem like it, but if you cut bank the 11 to your hole with inside english (9 oclock) and pocket speed, the 8 ball and 5 carom and bank off your opponents long rail, back over to your side and whitey goes uptable and back off the short endrail to leave a shot on the 8 or the 5.
It takes a little practice to convince yourself that the shot works, but it can be quite predictable.
I would not shoot this if I need just one ball, but I would if I needed 2 or 3.
Our own Lenny Marshall showed me this shot, so I have to give the credit to him
Thanks.
Bernie.
Interestingly enough, this exact shot came up for me a few months ago.
It might not seem like it, but if you cut bank the 11 to your hole with inside english (9 oclock) and pocket speed, the 8 ball and 5 carom and bank off your opponents long rail, back over to your side and whitey goes uptable and back off the short endrail to leave a shot on the 8 or the 5.
It takes a little practice to convince yourself that the shot works, but it can be quite predictable.
I would not shoot this if I need just one ball, but I would if I needed 2 or 3.
Our own Lenny Marshall showed me this shot, so I have to give the credit to him
Thanks.
Bernie.
i drew the 8 alittle shortInterestingly enough, this exact shot came up for me a few months ago.
It might not seem like it, but if you cut bank the 11 to your hole with inside english (9 oclock) and pocket speed, the 8 ball and 5 carom and bank off your opponents long rail, back over to your side and whitey goes uptable and back off the short endrail to leave a shot on the 8 or the 5.
It takes a little practice to convince yourself that the shot works, but it can be quite predictable.
I would not shoot this if I need just one ball, but I would if I needed 2 or 3.
Our own Lenny Marshall showed me this shot, so I have to give the credit to him
Thanks.
Bernie.
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Rob, I don't see how banking the ten back up table is a good shot unless you can kill the cue ball on the bottom rail. This is tough to control and not give up a good bank on the eight, five, or eleven. There are way too many banks to choose from down there. The other shot of banking the eight ball can be a very effective shot but has some risk to it. First, enough English must be applied so as to avoid hitting the elven or five on the way back up table and second the English leads the cue ball directly toward the upper corner pocket. If this shot is hit well I like it very much.
Tom
I wouldn't bank the 8ball if I was getting backed from a backer that I despised:sorry. Playing the carom is a much better shot but one that I still wouldn't be comfortable with shooting. Another shot would be to play the 13ball and billiard the 8ball, if this shot is laying right for the billiard it's by far the strongest shot available. You're losing by the score of six to five and have a chance to send both balls toward your pocket, if either ball falls...game over. If that shot isn't available I would consider playing off the 10ball like Hacker mentioned, at least he was able to grab ahold of himself before he committed to banking the 8ball.
Dr. Bill
I wouldn't bank the 8ball if I was getting backed from a backer that I despised:sorry. Playing the carom is a much better shot but one that I still wouldn't be comfortable with shooting. Another shot would be to play the 13ball and billiard the 8ball, if this shot is laying right for the billiard it's by far the strongest shot available. You're losing by the score of six to five and have a chance to send both balls toward your pocket, if either ball falls...game over. If that shot isn't available I would consider playing off the 10ball like Hacker mentioned, at least he was able to grab ahold of himself before he committed to banking the 8ball.
Dr. Bill
Billy once again banking the 8 ball is another ROUTINE shot.. if you cant execute it dont bother worrying about the WWYD's because you aren't going to beat anyone. Cutting at the stripe and playing the billiard on the 8 ball is the mentality that got you to 0 and 3 against me. Now Billy if i keep turning the light bulb on for you pretty soon we will be playing even:lol You out shoot me 2 to 1 its your thinking that is your downfall:sorry
P.S. Im laughing thinking about YOU shooting the cut on the stripe and billiard on the 8 ball saying to yourself..." MAN ARE THEY GOING TO CHEER WHEN I PULL THIS ONE OFF" LMFAO Then you shoot and its the old HOMER SIMPSON...D'OH
First of all, the "5 ball" appears to me to be a stripe. Could it be the 13-ball? Anyway, from the picture in post #9 it doesn't look to me like the CB would even carom into the 8 ball, unless it caromed so thin that it might scratch in the corner. But to me, there are too many things that could go wrong with that shot. I'd resist the urge...
For better players, I like Rob's banking the 8 ball with inside english. For average players, loading up the CB with that much inside at that distance carries the risk of hitting the OB wrong, with unpleasant results. Still, I might take a swing at it.
Shooting the 8 ball bank with no english will cause a kiss, but with inside it's probably okay.
Doc