One small gripe about DCC

[u12armresl]

I enjoyed the match I played, however, I'd like to add my one gripe.

Practice time from 9am to 10am for people in the one pocket tournament.
Many of the tables were taken up by non one pocket players (by their own admission) who didn't want to move. Other tables were people gambling or just hitting balls around.

I witnessed a person say that they were just testing sticks out, and he just didn't get it.

There has to be a better way to assign practice time to the tables and let people play. Granted there are almost 400 players, but a large portion of them weren't even up, let alone there.

I got a grand total of 15 minutes of practice on what I'd consider a tough table. While I feel the outcome would have been the same 100% of the time, my confidence on the table would have been much higher.

 

[JAM]

They should reserve the tables at least an hour before the match times for the upcoming competitors to practice.

Hope you enjoy the Derby, though. There's so much going on and things to do.

 

[u12armresl]

I did have fun.

My goal of winning a match didn't happen.
But I was totally happy with my break and limited shots.

Bad back is just literally a fun stopper.
Several times the shuttle would be filled up, or it would just take to long to get back. The walk from the playing area to the room area (even with moving sidewalks) is just brutal.

An easy fix for this IMHO would be to have your lanyard be colored in the border. If you don't have a red border for the one pocket, then you aren't to be on the tables period.

They should reserve the tables at least an hour before the match times for the upcoming competitors to practice.

Hope you enjoy the Derby, though. There's so much going on and things to do.

 

[JAM]

I did have fun.

My goal of winning a match didn't happen.
But I was totally happy with my break and limited shots.

Bad back is just literally a fun stopper.
Several times the shuttle would be filled up, or it would just take to long to get back. The walk from the playing area to the room area (even with moving sidewalks) is just brutal.

An easy fix for this IMHO would be to have your lanyard be colored in the border. If you don't have a red border for the one pocket, then you aren't to be on the tables period.

What a great idea! You should suggest that to Greg Sullivan. He is always open-minded about anything he can do to improve the Derby City Classic experience for all. I know he will appreciate it.

 

[straightback]

While you're at it, tell Greg: let's realize your dream of everybody playing as much pool as possible but setting up at least 30 more tables. I'm mean, you do own a factory that makes them...

 

[lfigueroa]

I enjoyed the match I played, however, I'd like to add my one gripe.

Practice time from 9am to 10am for people in the one pocket tournament.
Many of the tables were taken up by non one pocket players (by their own admission) who didn't want to move. Other tables were people gambling or just hitting balls around.

I witnessed a person say that they were just testing sticks out, and he just didn't get it.

There has to be a better way to assign practice time to the tables and let people play. Granted there are almost 400 players, but a large portion of them weren't even up, let alone there.

I got a grand total of 15 minutes of practice on what I'd consider a tough table. While I feel the outcome would have been the same 100% of the time, my confidence on the table would have been much higher.

It is what it is.

At the Derby, if you want table time, you have to cruise the various rooms and be like a vulture waiting for matches to finish up to get a few minutes here and there. But with over 400 players in the banks, 350 in the 1pocket, additional hundreds of inbound 9ball players, and all the gamblers trying to get a table, you basically have to go to the DCC with your game ready to roll right out of the box. That means finding a Diamond somewhere some how to practice on for a couple days before the tournament, perhaps buying your own set of Cyclops balls, and getting use to a quick start.

Lou Figueroa

 

[New 2 You Qs]

I enjoyed the match I played, however, I'd like to add my one gripe.

Practice time from 9am to 10am for people in the one pocket tournament.
Many of the tables were taken up by non one pocket players (by their own admission) who didn't want to move. Other tables were people gambling or just hitting balls around.

I witnessed a person say that they were just testing sticks out, and he just didn't get it.

There has to be a better way to assign practice time to the tables and let people play. Granted there are almost 400 players, but a large portion of them weren't even up, let alone there.

I got a grand total of 15 minutes of practice on what I'd consider a tough table. While I feel the outcome would have been the same 100% of the time, my confidence on the table would have been much higher.

I have always insisted that someone on my match table find somewhere else to play if they are not my opponent on that particular table. I've never had anyone say no. I have let them finish the current game in some cases, but not all.

 

[u12armresl]

I'm a pretty nice guy, don't cause issues with other players. Asking nicely when they just aren't going to move kinda ends that situation.

If you already played in the banks, then you know how the tables play, so IMHO there should be some sort of an order to things. First opportunity goes to people who have not played in the banks, but are playing in the one pocket.

Same thing goes next for the 9 ball. People who have played in the banks or the one pocket lose the table to anyone who hasn't played in either.

Plus, sorry, but gambling matches can take place anytime but the 1 hour we get to practice.

Dead money like me helps the true players make money. Remove all the dead money, and you'll see the prize funds drop dramatically.

I have always insisted that someone on my match table find somewhere else to play if they are not my opponent on that particular table. I've never had anyone say no. I have let them finish the current game in some cases, but not all.

 

[u12armresl]

I disagree, I don't need to go to the DCC with my game ready to roll. In addition, my tables even the Diamond's play different than the ones at the DCC.

As to the cruising the rooms for tables. We get ONE hour to practice, walking back and fourth, up and down escalators, etc. cuts heavily into that time.

The 9 ball players have nothing to do with the first day one pocket practice time. They wont be there for several more days.

It is what it is.

At the Derby, if you want table time, you have to cruise the various rooms and be like a vulture waiting for matches to finish up to get a few minutes here and there. But with over 400 players in the banks, 350 in the 1pocket, additional hundreds of inbound 9ball players, and all the gamblers trying to get a table, you basically have to go to the DCC with your game ready to roll right out of the box. That means finding a Diamond somewhere some how to practice on for a couple days before the tournament, perhaps buying your own set of Cyclops balls, and getting use to a quick start.

Lou Figueroa

 

[lfigueroa]

I disagree, I don't need to go to the DCC with my game ready to roll. In addition, my tables even the Diamond's play different than the ones at the DCC.

As to the cruising the rooms for tables. We get ONE hour to practice, walking back and fourth, up and down escalators, etc. cuts heavily into that time.

The 9 ball players have nothing to do with the first day one pocket practice time. They wont be there for several more days.

Well, gee. I've only been to about 15 of them so what would I know.

First off, if you don't allow for the logistics of getting around the place, well, that's on you. Second, so the tables play different than what you're used to -- some of the tables on the second floor played different than those on the first floor. You have to learn to adjust, quickly. It's a skill as important as any other.on the table. Third, many guys go for all three events (that would be called the All-Around), or perhaps just the 1pocket AND the 9ball, so 9ball players are there from day one of the 1pocket, whether you realize it or not. Of course hoards more of them start arriving Tuesday. And most certainly, with three tournaments running back-to-back and matches scheduled every two hours, mini's going, and guys trying to match up, you are not entitled to an hour of practice. You get what you can find, or settled for a few minutes on the table your match will be played on.

Lou Figueroa

 

[u12armresl]

You need to not act like an ass. I've noticed that about the way you talk and post, like you have Carte Blanche to spew out whatever you want regardless of it's offensive or not. I'm not John Barton, nor some punk 20 year old kid.

Your 15 DCC's have no merit on the subject of this thread.

What about the other numerous people who are complaining about the "logistics of getting around", is that on them also?

I know what the all around is, and again more patronization from you.

The schedule calls for practice for one pocket for one hour from 9-10 not for matching up.

I can honestly say in my existence in the pool world, I have never seen anyone who pushes buttons and acts so reckless with their words and mouth as you do. Almost like you feel you have impunity.

Well, gee. I've only been to about 15 of them so what would I know.

First off, if you don't allow for the logistics of getting around the place, well, that's on you. Second, so the tables play different than what you're used to -- some of the tables on the second floor played different than those on the first floor. You have to learn to adjust, quickly. It's a skill as important as any other.on the table. Third, many guys go for all three events (that would be called the All-Around), or perhaps just the 1pocket AND the 9ball, so 9ball players are there from day one of the 1pocket, whether you realize it or not. Of course hoards more of them start arriving Tuesday. And most certainly, with three tournaments running back-to-back and matches scheduled every two hours, mini's going, and guys trying to match up, you are not entitled to an hour of practice. You get what you can find, or settled for a few minutes on the table your match will be played on.

Lou Figueroa

 

[lfigueroa]

You need to not act like an ass. I've noticed that about the way you talk and post, like you have Carte Blanche to spew out whatever you want regardless of it's offensive or not. I'm not John Barton, nor some punk 20 year old kid.

Your 15 DCC's have no merit on the subject of this thread.

What about the other numerous people who are complaining about the "logistics of getting around", is that on them also?

I know what the all around is, and again more patronization from you.

The schedule calls for practice for one pocket for one hour from 9-10 not for matching up.

I can honestly say in my existence in the pool world, I have never seen anyone who pushes buttons and acts so reckless with their words and mouth as you do. Almost like you feel you have impunity.

The only one acting like an ass here is you.

15 DCC's most certainly is relevant whether you like it or not. And from that kind of experience, I can tell you that if you go up to the Tournament Desk and demand your one hour practice time, the lads back there will most certainly laugh in your face. The DCC has always been this way: you get what practice time you can when and where you can. That's what I know from 15 of them.

And, just because other people can't figure out that it's more than a stroll from the hotel room to the various tournament areas doesn't relieve them of the responsibility to plan better. Oh, it's a big casino/hotel -- maybe I should allow some time to get to where I want. What a concept.

Sorry you don't like the way I write. I shall have to get over that.

Lou Figueroa
over it

 

[oldroller]

You

You

The only one acting like an ass here is you.

15 DCC's most certainly is relevant whether you like it or not. And from that kind of experience, I can tell you that if you go up to the Tournament Desk and demand your one hour practice time, the lads back there will most certainly laugh in your face. The DCC has always been this way: you get what practice time you can when and where you can. That's what I know from 15 of them.

And, just because other people can't figure out that it's more than a stroll from the hotel room to the various tournament areas doesn't relieve them of the responsibility to plan better. Oh, it's a big casino/hotel -- maybe I should allow some time to get to where I want. What a concept.

Sorry you don't like the way I write. I shall have to get over that.

Lou Figueroa
over it

I don't know at all,but I'd bet you are an asshole

 

[lfigueroa]

I don't know at all,but I'd bet you are an asshole

Well, as they say: it would take one to know one.

Lou Figueroa

 

[LSJohn]

I don't know at all,but I'd bet you are an asshole

I'll take that bet.

I've never met Lou, but my impression is that he just says what he thinks and doesn't try to sugarcoat it. There's something about that that we can appreciate, but it can hit a soft spot at times.

 

[lfigueroa]

I'll take that bet.

I've never met Lou, but my impression is that he just says what he thinks and doesn't try to sugarcoat it. There's something about that that we can appreciate, but it can hit a soft spot at times.

Thanks, LSJohn.

At the DCC this year I met probably close to dozen members of this site and a couple dozen more from AZ, and even several from the old-RSB days. I don't hide behind a screen name, I put my name behind everything I write, and subsequently, everyone knows who I am.

And one of the highlights of going to an event like the DCC is to be warmly greeted by all those folks. Are there a couple that perhaps avoid me. Yes. But I had, literally, dozens of guys who I know from online or past events come up to greet me, shake hands, and in some cases specifically tell me how much they've enjoyed what I've written over the years -- it puts all the online crap, such as what was said a couple of posts ago in this thread, into perspective.

Do I sugar coat things? No, you're right, and for that I'm not going to apologize.

Lou Figueroa

 

[petie]

You need to not act like an ass. I've noticed that about the way you talk and post, like you have Carte Blanche to spew out whatever you want regardless of it's offensive or not. I'm not John Barton, nor some punk 20 year old kid.

Your 15 DCC's have no merit on the subject of this thread.

What about the other numerous people who are complaining about the "logistics of getting around", is that on them also?

I know what the all around is, and again more patronization from you.

The schedule calls for practice for one pocket for one hour from 9-10 not for matching up.

I can honestly say in my existence in the pool world, I have never seen anyone who pushes buttons and acts so reckless with their words and mouth as you do. Almost like you feel you have impunity.

You lost me at "gripe."

 

[LSJohn]

Do I sugar coat things? No, you're right, and for that I'm not going to apologize.

And you shouldn't. Of course, Callin'-'em-as-you-see-'em can sometimes be disconcerting to people who don't know you, but your friends will appreciate it, and friends are what count most.

Keep on truckin'

 

[Scrzbill]

The only one acting like an ass here is you.

15 DCC's most certainly is relevant whether you like it or not. And from that kind of experience, I can tell you that if you go up to the Tournament Desk and demand your one hour practice time, the lads back there will most certainly laugh in your face. The DCC has always been this way: you get what practice time you can when and where you can. That's what I know from 15 of them.

And, just because other people can't figure out that it's more than a stroll from the hotel room to the various tournament areas doesn't relieve them of the responsibility to plan better. Oh, it's a big casino/hotel -- maybe I should allow some time to get to where I want. What a concept.

Sorry you don't like the way I write. I shall have to get over that.

Lou Figueroa
over it

I have never experienced anything but co operation from the tournament counter. Everyone in the tournament has a right to practice on the tables before the rounds begin. You also have priority over other players if your match is scheduled on the table you want to practice. You may have to share a table but so what?
I don't see a need, Lou, for you to be belligerent or insulting. Because you put your name on your post means you somehow don't have to be polite? The purpose for this site is not to denigrate or demean others but as a place to learn about one pocket and to have fun. Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.
Kentucky

 

[u12armresl]

He doesn't feel that way Bill. Now a days the "I don't sugar coat things" is an excuse to be impolite or attempt to degrade others.

I have never experienced anything but co operation from the tournament counter. Everyone in the tournament has a right to practice on the tables before the rounds begin. You also have priority over other players if your match is scheduled on the table you want to practice. You may have to share a table but so what?
I don't see a need, Lou, for you to be belligerent or insulting. Because you put your name on your post means you somehow don't have to be polite? The purpose for this site is not to denigrate or demean others but as a place to learn about one pocket and to have fun. Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.
Kentucky