One Pocket Videos and TV Pool Balls

Tennessee Joe6

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Since videos of pool are becoming much more popular with exciting challenge matches, professional commentary, great video equipment, etc., I have one complaint. The use of TV balls. Even the commentators are confused when trying to explain shots and strategies. I hesitate for a moment paying for a match if TV balls are used and have forwarded this suggestion to producers.

Your thoughts please.
 

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Since videos of pool are becoming much more popular with exciting challenge matches, professional commentary, great video equipment, etc., I have one complaint. The use of TV balls. Even the commentators are confused when trying to explain shots and strategies. I hesitate for a moment paying for a match if TV balls are used and have forwarded this suggestion to producers.

Your thoughts please.
I don't like them either.
 

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I like the newer balls and the technology behind them but if it were up to me, they would revert to the old traditional colors :)
 

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I bought the new Durimith tournament TV ball set because it came with the measle ball.
 

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but if it were up to me, they would revert to the old traditional colors
I agree. I have a difficult time discerning which are which. It's most inconvenient in rotation games where you're trying to see what they're pulling shape for.
I've noticed that commentators sometimes have trouble as well.
 

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I agree. I have a difficult time discerning which are which. It's most inconvenient in rotation games where you're trying to see what they're pulling shape for.
I've noticed that commentators sometimes have trouble as well.
I think they have more problems with the Cyclop balls, they guess a lot with those
 

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I have played with the traditional ball colors for 60 years. Yellow, blue, red, purple, orange, green, and maroon. Those colors are my rainbow. I don't like television messing with my rainbow!
 

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people love to mess with standard things that work to make them so called better. also it puts their badge on the change.
sometimes it is better but many times it fails and is hard to reverse.
what most fail to see is that any change, the upside of it has to be better than the present or the downside problems.
 

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I think they have more problems with the Cyclop balls, they guess a lot with those
Agreed. I don't like the 6-7-14-15.

I do actually like replacing the 4-12 with pink instead of purple...easier to see as a spectator several feet from the table or watching on a screen.
 

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I have not played with the newer balls....could you explain "the technology behind them"?
Aramith balls, Durimith is the 5th generation Phenolic resin. Stronger and last longer, supposedly stays cleaner longer.

Cyclop, Hyperion is their newest version of Phenolic resin.
 

J.R.

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I have not played with the newer balls....could you explain "the technology behind them"?
I found this on-line. These are not my findings. It is a comparison of Cyclop Pool Balls vs Aramith Pool Balls by Madeeha Shahbaz on April 3, 2019.

Aramith pool balls are made by Saluc in Belgium and has enjoyed international attention and acclaim over the years. It has been the desired brand of renowned players. The reason for this legendary reputation has been majorly due to its exceptional durability and uncompromising quality offering the players the pleasure of razor-sharp precision. It compromises a high-tech process that combines the unmatched characteristics of phenolic resin with fine Belgian craftsmanship. Aramith prove to be a good investment for the players as they last for a long time saving the wear and tear cost of the table cloth and also the replacement of the kit.

Aramith Pool Balls have a heavy duty design where the numbers precision engraved in a hard core that runs all the way through the ball. However, in some cases, it is evident that number cores wear out over the passage of time but with Aramith, it is almost impossible for number cores to fall out over time. Aramith is made of Phenolic resin which assures homogeneous characteristics in each ball part which makes the balls having uniform weight and hardness.

Aramith Pool Balls are burn spot resistant. Hitting a cue ball actually accelerates it from 0 to over 30 km/h (20 MPH) in just a fraction of a second. The resulting friction temperature between ball and cloth can easily reach 250°c (482°F). Aramith’s molecular structure is designed to be wear and tear resistant at high temperatures, making Aramith far less exposed to rough burn-spots. This is the reason the quality stays firm over the passage of time resulting is less wear and tear of the balls and table cloth.

Aramith Pool Balls are high impact resistant. The notion of the billiard game is to hit the ball and follow the arrangements of the balls. Therefore, impact resistance is a critical factor. Aramith’s phenolic heat-curing process fully steadies material tensions. It produces a vitrified high-density surface that offers supreme impact resistance. Results show Aramith to survive to over 50 times more impacts than other polymer or polyester balls. They are also twice more likely to resist scratches. Subsequently, Aramith prove to be more durable even on less maintained tables and last longer than other balls guaranteeing the high resistance.

The second part of the Cyclop Pool Balls vs Aramith Pool Balls post.

Cyclop Pool Balls are made by a Taiwanese company. It is another high grade phonelic resin ball set – Cyclop. It is designed in house with the manufacturing material imported from Germany and Japan.

Cyclop Pool Balls have high elasticity and reaction. The balls have an instant reaction to the pool stick which is due to the flexible elasticity. The balls also have high sensitivity as they are sensitive to react on the strikes. This is also the reason that the tail speed of the ball after hitting is high.

Cyclop Pool Balls have a high internal molecular density which improves the quality of the ball enabling it to react accurately to the strikes and making the game interesting and enjoyable for the players.

Players Input: Cyclop Pool Balls vs Aramith Pool Balls

Both sets of pool balls are made from phonelic resin which is a super hard material that is widely acknowledged as the optimum material for making pool balls. Aramith and Cyclop are the only manufacturers to date which have been able to produce balls using phonelic resin.
Over the years, both Aramith and Cyclop have been considered to have superior quality in the industry. However, there are few observations made by the players regarding the similarities and differences among the both. Let’s address them as below.

#1. Resistance to dirt: Cyclop Pool Balls are witnessed as more resistant to dirt. Whereas Aramith Pool Balls require frequent cleaning and removing of the dirt to preserve the desired quality of the performance. The Cyclop has been engineered to resist dirt and chalk clinging to the ball surface and are more convenient to clean when required. Therefore, the table owners who are relentless to clean would prefer Cyclop over Aramith.

#2. Price: Cyclop Pool Balls are cheaper than Aramith Pool Balls. Cyclop are made with American technology (they were developed in part alongside Diamond pool tables in America), Taiwanese management and Chinese labor. This brings their price point down well below the Aramith made in Belgium.

#3. Cosmetic design: Cyclop Pool Balls are brighter than Aramith Pool Balls. New colors are featured in Cyclop breaking the monotony of playing with the same colors for the enthusiasts. New colors, however, are getting mixed responses by the players. Some of the players consider them good as they are better matched to blue cloth and easier on the eye. Nonetheless, some of the players are resistant to change and are also of the view that new colors are adding confusion in their game and they would prefer to play with the old colors. Mixed responses are also observed regarding the cue ball. Therefore, the players who want to try a new experience would prefer Cyclop over Aramith and vice versa.

#4. Ball skidding: Cyclop Pool Balls are observed to skid less than Aramith Pool Balls which makes the playing experience more enjoyable for the player. This can also be attributed to its resistant to dirt characteristic.

#5. Weight: Cyclop Pool Balls are slightly heavier than Aramith Pool Balls. The difference is very minor though can only be stated as 1% heavier than Aramith. Draw can be noticed to come up short or follow run a little long with Cyclop in comparison to Aramith.

#6. Cue ball: Cyclop cue balls have a faintly semi-transparent layer around the cue ball and this can freak people out a little, visually. It looks like the red mark / logo is somehow floating on the surface or slightly underneath the surface. However, if the standard measles cue ball is preferred then Aramith should be opted for.

Conclusion: Cyclop Pool Balls vs Aramith Pool Balls

Cyclop Pool Balls and Aramith Pool Balls both have superior quality. To pick one among the two entirely depends on personal preferences; players who are willing to pay a higher price would opt for Aramith. However, those who want to play with brighter colors would prefer Cyclop over Aramith. Also apparently, players who are resistant to clean the balls on a regular basis would prefer Cyclop which are resistant to dirt and skid more. However, if you choose to play at home Aramith being the industry leader are pretty common and would be found in almost every pool room you go to play. Whereas, Cyclop are not that common and you would require a bit adjustment when switching from home to the local pool room. Nevertheless, Cyclop or Aramith, whichever you opt for, it will not result in any disappointment as both have superior quality and will give you a pleasurable experience of the game.
 

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Thanks for the report. It’s my guess that the comparison isn’t between the two newest balls from each company. The new Hyperion balls use a different cue ball, and the new Aramith Tournament balls made from Durimith are designed to further reduce wear and collect chalk dust than earlier resins. At least that’s what they claim.
 

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THe older cyclops balls I played with chipped a lot after about 4 years
 

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Thanks for the report. It’s my guess that the comparison isn’t between the two newest balls from each company. The new Hyperion balls use a different cue ball, and the new Aramith Tournament balls made from Durimith are designed to further reduce wear and collect chalk dust than earlier resins. At least that’s what they claim.
Looks like that is from a year ago...
 

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why are centennials not used anymore for tournaments?
sponsorship??
your guys opinion comparing the to aramith and cyclops
 

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why are centennials not used anymore for tournaments?
sponsorship??
your guys opinion comparing the to aramith and cyclops
Mostly because Diamond is the big sponsor and owns Cyclop. The new Hyperion ball design is pretty nice. Centennials are still considered Brunswick and they don’t sponsor anything. I bought the new Durimith balls but still considering getting a set of Hyperions just to compare.
 
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