- Jul 2, 2004
In Detroit, the standard rule if you were caught playing partners or cheating at cards was...you sat out a game or a hand.
Why kick someone out for good and ruin the game forever?
I would venture to say, I have probably played, at least 92 DIFFERENT sets of rules...The original rules of golf, had you breaking out of the D, object ball, on the 6 ball spot and shooting at the 1st hole. You continued to shoot, until you made the 1 hole, counting your strokes, (much like 'Stymie')...Lowest score won...It was a boring way to play, and was soon superceded by the conventional (but convoluted) rules, that went on for years.
Hey Papie! How ya doin?
I would have loved to have played you golf.
I dare say I would have probably knocked your Dick off and they would have had to start calling you something else. Dickliss McMoran or something like that.
Also...I used to give your UPS brother Bill Gillin more than you offered him playing one pocket. I added the break to your offer and he didn't care for it after a bit. He is a little snug with his money. He thought/thinks he was/is a hellofa golf player too.
Then ask him why he refused the side hole, and the break..
Thats our Bill, big in the talk small in the do department. LOL. I believe you. I know what you offered him playing one pocket but he never told me what you offered playing golf, he had to have been too embarassed to tell me he didn't even look at that. :lol
He was really impressed with your game though which might explain not looking at it. Jeez what a wimp. :lol
When I first started playing golf then got good at it I realized I had a big advantage...being tall...and being left handed. I have a huge advantage being left handed shooting for the 2 and 5 holes. A tough spot for a right hander is the nuts for a left hander. I shouldn't have said anything but shit, Freddie gives up all kinds of secrets to the squares so what the hell.
We had a game a long time ago (myself, Dave "Lefty" Johnson, Ricky Graczyk, Dave Krenzel, a guy Larry and an east sider Tommy) and I start looking and realized all of us are left handed. I struck me funny and mentioned it and everybody thought it was kinda weird, has never happened since.
When I started playing good and winning alot I couldn't believe the guys that asked me to go "partners". I was like WTF! Good players!
I knew I was playing good and that shit sealed it for me. I knew...they knew...I was playing good. I know I've got the best of it getting 5 and 6 to one on the money and I'm going to give up half my money to a bunch of weak hearted pieces of shit, right!
So I knew who was probably partners in the game and so did everybody else and they'd even say shit during the game about it. Why not keep playing when you still have the best of it and getting odds on the money?
Thats why my comment about sitting out a hand or game if you were caught cheating is more true than not and most people wont understand.
Detroit was a different city than most others gambling wise and you got good seasoning if you were smart and paid attention.
Liability was always a better game on the snooker table than golf cause you were only responsible for you and you only, which is why most of those weak hearted chumps liked golf more.
I still love playing golf but its dried up here like everywhere else. Bill told me where you guys played when he lived out there they had 3 6x12's and guys would come in and leave their pistols at the counter or on the next table and there was action all day. Man I miss that here.
I would have loved to have played you Papie (and still would) even though I dont think you would have liked it as much as you think. At any game by the way. :sorry