Ghost vs. Steve 7 - the end game - wwyd?

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Steve's shot --- the ball score is 6-6, both going to 8 --- Steve's pocket is at the top right --- Steve is in a tough spot --- the 15ball is frozen to the rail --- there's approx. 1/16" of space between the 1 and the 5 balls.....wwyd?

Ray's shot, his pocket is at the bottom right - Ray's an old school straight pool player still learning One Pocket --- the ball score is 6-5, Donn ahead, both going to 8 --- Ray's in a tough spot, needing to come up with a safety without leaving Donn a cut shot or a bank shot of any kind --- the 13 is frozen to the rail, and the 8 can be cut in from that area without scratching in the side pocket.....wwyd?
 

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Steve's shot --- the ball score is 6-6, both going to 8 --- Steve's pocket is at the top right --- Steve is in a tough spot --- the 15ball is frozen to the rail.....wwyd?
I do not want to lose the game here and am kicking at the 15 softly. I may end up owing a ball, but will still be in the game.
 

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I don't know if the 5 & 9 (1?) are frozen, but if I were feeling frisky there are two kicks worth considering.

The first is the CB 2 rails out of your corner, which would be shot to contact the yellow ball and have the CB roll up table on your side.

The second would be to kick off the foot rail, hitting the yellow ball square, and driving the 5 up to the head rail. The danger there is leaving a free straight back for Ghost.

The first shot is easier accomplished. A more standard shot would be to come off the left of the 5, rolling the CB down to the foot rail. But if the yellow ball contacts the 15, then a follow up cross side might be left.

~Doc
 

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Ghost vs. Steve 7 - the end game - wwyd?

Here we go again 😂. Kick the one from behind on the left side. The 5 ball bank is dead (with that big of throw hitting it on the left) the 1 should sit in the middle of the table for your out ball. Woohoo!!!!
 

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I don't know if the 5 & 9 (1?) are frozen, but if I were feeling frisky there are two kicks worth considering.

The first is the CB 2 rails out of your corner, which would be shot to contact the yellow ball and have the CB roll up table on your side.

The second would be to kick off the foot rail, hitting the yellow ball square, and driving the 5 up to the head rail. The danger there is leaving a free straight back for Ghost.

The first shot is easier accomplished. A more standard shot would be to come off the left of the 5, rolling the CB down to the foot rail. But if the yellow ball contacts the 15, then a follow up cross side might be left.

~Doc
Doc, there's somewhere's between 1/16"-1/8" of space between the 1 and the 5 balls - the 1 will definitely hit the 15 if the top of the 5 is struck.
 

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:sorry Rod, but that's a no go >>> "there's somewhere's between 1/16"-1/8" of space between the 1 and the 5 balls - the 1 will definitely hit the 15 if the top of the 5 is struck".
 

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Ghost vs. Steve 7 - the end game - wwyd?

:sorry Rod, but that's a no go >>> "there's somewhere's between 1/16"-1/8" of space between the 1 and the 5 balls - the 1 will definitely hit the 15 if the top of the 5 is struck".


Not if it’s struck from behind... Boo-Yaaaa 😁
 

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I like and would shoot cincy kid's choice

Come off 5ball with top left and try to settle as close to the 15ball as possible.

If the 1ball goes down to the 15, so much the better.

Your opponent has to shoot and you should have a return shot.

The point is to win, not try some off the wall crazy shot(not mentioning names Mitch):lol:lol
 

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I don't know if the 5 & 9 (1?) are frozen, but if I were feeling frisky there are two kicks worth considering.

The first is the CB 2 rails out of your corner, which would be shot to contact the yellow ball and have the CB roll up table on your side.

The second would be to kick off the foot rail, hitting the yellow ball square, and driving the 5 up to the head rail. The danger there is leaving a free straight back for Ghost.

The first shot is easier accomplished. A more standard shot would be to come off the left of the 5, rolling the CB down to the foot rail. But if the yellow ball contacts the 15, then a follow up cross side might be left.

~Doc
I like Doc's 1st choice here. Pretty standard 2 rail kick and with the cueball going up table you should be in good position. K
 

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I'm keeping it simple here..


I like and would shoot cincy kid's choice

^^^^ It's really a good idea to read what has previously been posted before you suggest a shot...:rolleyes:...but I'm sorry, maybe it's my fault for not making it large enough to read...here, maybe this will help >>>



"there's somewhere's between 1/16"-1/8" of space between the 1 and the 5 balls - the 1 will definitely hit the 15 if the top, or side of the 5 is struck".
 
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I'm taking an intentional, and freezing the cueball on the rail about half way, between where it is now and the closest diamond on the end rail , {straight into those 2 balls near the spot ,not allowing him to hit the 15, if my opponents a goof he will shoot , if he isn't he will take a foul and put me back where I was on the rail , I take another , he takes another, then I thin off the top ball and try to nestle the cue ball on the bottom rail, if he gets a bank at least he needs to run 4 , instead of make a bank and almost automatic shape, for the case ball.
If you thin the ball now , it's probably going to disturb the 15 or leave a bank and that's no good. The kick bank is real fun, but I have to believe the odds are more than 4 to 1 you lose instead of win, if you shoot it.
I say that, because anything besides hanging the ball up or making it should leave a bank ,unless you really whack it to make it go back up table if you miss , then the power of the hit comes into play.
 
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very viable shots here.

one is to hit head on but a little to the left softy and float cueball down to the bottom rail off the side rail. both balls down there will be near together and no real shot.

other is to wack it head on .both lower balls go up table and the other goes sideways . cueball rolls down near the pocket.

neither leaves a good shot or any. and no reason to take a scratch.
 

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No question your in a tough spot here with very few options and the options you do have are iffy at best. The option that I would play is kicking two cushions into the 1 and 5 balls it's laying good for the kick to be hit well a high percentage of the time. That's my choice.

Dr. Bill
 

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I'm taking an intentional, and freezing the cueball on the rail about half way, between where it is now and the closest diamond on the end rail , {straight into those 2 balls near the spot ,not allowing him to hit the 15, if my opponents a goof he will shoot , if he isn't he will take a foul and put me back where I was on the rail , I take another , he takes another, then I thin off the top ball and try to nestle the cue ball on the bottom rail, if he gets a bank at least he needs to run 4 , instead of make a bank and almost automatic shape, for the case ball.
If you thin the ball now , it's probably going to disturb the 15 or leave a bank and that's no good. The kick bank is real fun, but I have to believe the odds are more than 4 to 1 you lose instead of win, if you shoot it.
I say that, because anything besides hanging the ball up or making it should leave a bank ,unless you really whack it to make it go back up table if you miss , then the power of the hit comes into play.
This strategy is ok if you've decided that it is too dangerous to move any of those balls from here, although you could be accused of being a slow player for lengthening the game like that.:lol

Myself, after we've lined up four more balls on the spot, so now there are six there, I will shoot the two rail kick out of his corner moving most of those balls to my side and putting him up table on his side where he could be in big trouble.

:D
 

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ive found for me anyway that the two rail kick out of the side is a great shot. but i personally need three or more balls to shoot it effectively..

but whatever you do it is going to have a chance of risk.
 

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If the balls are only a 16th of an inch apart.
If you hit them hard enough to get to the side rail you will probably hit the 15 with the one, hit them hard enough to get to the bottom rail and the 1 has a real good chance of having caromed over toward his pocket !
How would you like them apples?
For comparison a 16th of an inch is really close to the width of a toothpick.
If you can do, all you say you can with the shot, and not disturb that 15 ball , I wasted all that time in ninth grade for nothing.
 
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I am kicking at the 15 ball with medium speed. My percentages of catching the left side of the 15 ball are pretty good and dont have to sell out anything offensive for my opponent. There is no way that I am opening up the 2 balls on the spot from here.
 
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