Ghost vs. Pat 26 wwyd

Dennis "Whitey" Young

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I will say this, that in doing these videos it is hard sometimes to get the correct perspective of the shot, and it depends a lot on where the camera is placed. A good example is the Squeeze Bank and the About Face Bank for instance. The same goes for pictures in these wwyds. I have to try an imagine where the camera is to sometimes know where to place the balls in trying to replicate the scenario.

I do notice on various different wwyds that members draw up conclusions based upon how they see the lay of the table. Which is a correct conclusion providing that is actually how the balls lie, or vise versa a wrong conclusion. For instance in this wwyd, the 9 and 12 were hard to know their placement, and their placement may come into play, for the 10 could contact the 9, and of course we are trying to hide behind the 12 plus not sell out the 12.

So therefore Jeff Sparks is not wrong, nor is Vapros wrong, for no one knows exactly how the balls lie. A 1/16" -1/8" here or there could make quite a difference. So for me it is, 'if the shot is there'. The very nature of this shot makes it very sensitive of course to ball relationship.

But, with that said; "if the shot is there", we then see the shot is possible. But if set up a little different and thus the 7 hits the 10 thicker, we then realize the 10 acquires more speed and a different direction, or if the set up is such that the 7 does not hit the 10 it is possible for the cb to go right through the 5 & 10, which I have done. lol !

Just how viable is this shot, well you will have to set it up and try for yourselves.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/BkT1B1QzVrMS33NUA This is the still picture of how the shot turned out, wwyd? Post wwyd without looking what I did, if you want to play along, as Pilot did!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/WbTzycLd5LmPr8ci9 This is another view from the shooters position.
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https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ndh6TD7YRFBPgYen7 This is how my return shot turned out! Do not open until you figure out what you would do, and then you can figure out what I did.

I wish I could of put up the picture instead of a link, but I had a hard time doing so. Whitey

https://photos.app.goo.gl/evHPoSZYxCaMso2C7 This is the still picture of the 2 rail kick intentional w/ the cue ball in the same position as the above. wwyd?
https://photos.app.goo.gl/L8Vuw5abWKsNDAMA9 This is the still picture view from the shooters position. wwyd?
 
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jtompilot

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I will say this, that in doing these videos it is hard sometimes to get the correct perspective of the shot, and it depends a lot on where the camera is placed. A good example is the Squeeze Bank and the About Face Bank for instance. The same goes for pictures in these wwyds. I have to try an imagine where the camera is to sometimes know where to place the balls in trying to replicate the scenario.

I do notice on various different wwyds that members draw up conclusions based upon how they see the lay of the table. Which is a correct conclusion providing that is actually how the balls lie, or vise versa a wrong conclusion. For instance in this wwyd, the 9 and 12 were hard to know their placement, and their placement may come into play, for the 10 could contact the 9, and of course we are trying to hide behind the 12 plus not sell out the 12.

So therefore Jeff Sparks is not wrong, nor is Vapros wrong, for no one knows exactly how the balls lie. A 1/16" -1/8" here or there could make quite a difference. So for me it is, 'if the shot is there'. The very nature of this shot makes it very sensitive of course to ball relationship.

But, with that said; "if the shot is there", we then see the shot is possible. But if set up a little different and thus the 7 hits the 10 thicker, we then realize the 10 acquires more speed and a different direction, or if the set up is such that the 7 does not hit the 10 it is possible for the cb to go right through the 5 & 10, which I have done. lol !

Just how viable is this shot, well you will have to set it up and try for yourselves.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/BkT1B1QzVrMS33NUA This is the still picture of how the shot turned out, wwyd?
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https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ndh6TD7YRFBPgYen7 This is how my return shot turned out! Do not open until you figure out what you would do, and then you can figure out what I did.

I wish I could of put up the picture instead of a link, but I had a hard time doing so. Whitey
The return is to come off the 9 and get as close to the corner as possible, or like your kick
 

baby huey

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OK, I was watching a TRex match and something similar came up for Tony. He kicked to the ball represented by our seven ball from the side rail and pocketed the one ball. At first I couldn't understand his shot but in our scenario the five/ten balls are somewhat tied up and a low percentage to sell out. Tony's shot was very much like this one. So he had confidence in his shot and that's HIS game plan. I see many of these situations come up in One Pocket with that side rail kick shot that I'm beginning to wonder if it really isn't a high percentage shot after all?
 

beatle

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you will take a bank off the side rail and expect to make it most times. so why not expect to make a kick hit in the same spot. isnt that easier. what may be harder is to visualize where that spot is.
 
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