Ghost vs. John 47 wwyd?

Island Drive

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After reading all these posts....Yah got 2 choices.

1. You bank the five, leave cue ball On the long rail....use the proper speed on the 5 ball to block the 10 ball bank.

2.Or kick the ten in, from inside Your pocket, when YOU the shooter are not in a totally ''level'' shooting position.
 

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Bruce,

I want to add my thanks for this particular WWYD. There have been a lot of WWYD's, some I have participated in and some not.

Most of them boil down to how many different offensive shots can one imagine from a given situation. And while that can be entertaining, I don't find it very educational.

The vociferousness of the argument here and the deep dive into why one should do what, is a testament to the value of risk/reward analysis, which I think was your purpose as a teacher.

Even though we don't all agree on the solution to your question, I think everyone had to be impressed with the "below the surface" complexity of what initially looked like a joke to Dr. Bill.

It is that subtle complexity that makes OP such an enjoyable and fascinating game to me, and for demonstrating that, I think this is one of the finest WWYD's I have seen.

I don't know if it is over yet, but good job.:)


Very well said as usual Darrell...and also thanks for the appreciation.


ghost
this has been a GREAT wwyd.:)
the discussions and explanations behind the reasons for the shot selection have been of tremendous benefit to me.
thanks
larry
You're welcome Larry



And lastly, in closing, due to my concern that some of the One Pocket students on here may have been led astray by some of the posts that they've read in this thread...Reverend Ghost is gonna evangelize a little and quote some scripture:


...................BEWARE OF FALSE PROPHETS

:heh
 
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I’m watching a video of Bergman playing Hall. Hall has a ball hanging in his hole and Bergman missed kicking the ball in.
 

Bob Jewett

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I’m watching a video of Bergman playing Hall. Hall has a ball hanging in his hole and Bergman missed kicking the ball in.
It looks like he must have had some spin on the ball since he hit the far rail about right. He missed the OB by a full ball.
 

Dennis "Whitey" Young

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Very well said as usual Darrell...and also thanks for the appreciation.




You're welcome Larry



And lastly, in closing, due to my concern that some of the One Pocket students on here may have been led astray by some of the posts that they've read in this thread...Reverend Ghost is gonna evangelize a little and quote some scripture:


...................BEWARE OF FALSE PROPHETS

:heh
I just wonder how many of us take offense to the 'Beware of False Prophets' statement, since only Tom chose your shot! I take it to mean; that one and only shot is the only one that is viable in your opinion! Whitey
 

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Ghost vs. John 47 wwyd?

I just wonder how many of us take offense to the 'Beware of False Prophets' statement, since only Tom chose your shot! I take it to mean; that one and only shot is the only one that is viable in your opinion! Whitey


Whitey, Ghosty is just kidding around as usual. Especially since he knows that only Todd and I got this Wwyd right 😂.
 

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I just wonder how many of us take offense to the 'Beware of False Prophets' statement, since only Tom chose your shot! I take it to mean; that one and only shot is the only one that is viable in your opinion! Whitey
Whitey,

Is it just tooo early for you or has all that rain out there gotten you soaked?lol

Starting back at post #7, I was the first one to suggest the proper shot in the circumstance at hand.

After my initial post, many others agreed with that particular shot.

This WWYD was about critical thinking, and playing the score, a fact that apparently some still don't get in spite of all the explanation by some of the very best players and analysts on this forum.

It is not arguable that of all the shot suggestions made, that my suggestion is the most appropriate if one is playing the score, a strategy that has been cannonized on this forum for as long as I can remember.

Ghost's tiny little retribution to beware of false prophets is no more than a friendly reminder to be careful of who's advice you follow. Despite his youthful blustering, Mitch knows he can't shoot his shot and keep the 5 ball where he claims. You could try that on your own table and show us in one of your videos.

:D
 
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If i am playing ghost i make him shoot the 5 by scratching on a masse. That is actually an easy hit here is a huge error buffer on the scratch on that masse.

After ghost dogs the straight in ball, the game is mine. :heh
 

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It looks like he must have had some spin on the ball since he hit the far rail about right. He missed the OB by a full ball.
I was thinking the same thing. He had enough natural angle to get to the pocket, so he didn't need the spin. It looked like he was undecided, but rushed the shot without being fully committed. Yeah he missed it half a diamond or more!
 

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looking at the result I do think that I would try to be alot more careful with the 5 ball to get it to the short rail because even if it is a bit of a lon sot there is a good out if you shoot the 10 and get good on the cross corner it si easy to hold for the straight back on the 12 to get good on the 8. I understand it is not the easiest out but when my opponent gives me air I tend to bury alot more of those banks as I feel i have a chance!
 

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he also may not have been familiarized with the table and wasnt shooting from corner to corner.

but just for kicks on my table with big pockets i shot it to see how many times in a row i would make it. i quit at 50 with no scratches and kicked myself in the ass for wasting time.
 

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I just wonder how many of us take offense to the 'Beware of False Prophets' statement, since only Tom chose your shot! I take it to mean; that one and only shot is the only one that is viable in your opinion! Whitey
Truly unbelievable ^^^ :rolleyes: and people wonder why for months at a time I decide to stop taking the time to post up wwyd's...

Do you read the posts Whitey? - Do you have a sense of humor Whitey?...

Is this only Tom Whitey? :rolleyes: >>>

The ONLY choice I see, and I assume is the one Dr Bill is referring to is to bank the 5 ball to the upper corner near those other two balls at pocket speed. He can have the 10 ball, but that is all. Score is now 7-5.

(Sure hope Ghost has some cookies on hand for this one)

:)
I would just punt the 5 ball off the long rail short of the corner
I'm going with the 5 ball out of play option
Are you serious this must be a trick question there is only one option that I can think of, anything else would be uncivilized. placing the 5ball as close to the 12ball preferably under it would be IMO where to go.

Dr. Bill
Looks to me like he has earned that ten ball weather you make it for him or he makes it himself. Drawing off the five ball will take some power and who knows where the five ball ends up at. Also there's the possibility that you don't pocket the ten. I would just position the five ball toward the other balls that are out of play and let him have a go with the ten ball.
So here is my thinking on this situation.
There is no way I'm kicking or trying to masse into the 10 ball. There is no need to take that risk. Especially with the kick. Sure it look simple but out of 100 times who's going to make it every time? Answer...no one here. And then, isn't there a possibility of giving up a straight back on the 5? Maybe?

So, for my money I'm taking the five out.


Nice post Ghost. Hey! I'm a poet too! :D

Tom

If i am playing, I display my usual immature machismo, and dog the correct choice :eek:
^^^ Yep, good of you to admit it for a change...:lol
 
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Ghost, I did not know you were kidding around! thanks for the thread, I enjoy them as of course others do, keep them coming! Whitey
 

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Very well said as usual Darrell...and also thanks for the appreciation.




You're welcome Larry



And lastly, in closing, due to my concern that some of the One Pocket students on here may have been led astray by some of the posts that they've read in this thread...Reverend Ghost is gonna evangelize a little and quote some scripture:


...................BEWARE OF FALSE PROPHETS

:heh
Ghostie, I just want to tell you that I appreciate, as do the majority of our members, the contributions and WWYD's that you post.

Please keep them coming. I know that everyone chooses different shots in different situations. A lot of it depends on your confidence in your abilities on each particular shot.

That is what makes the game so challenging and interesting to all of us onepocket nuts.:eek:
 

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That was actually my real choice ghost, and i think i am right. The % are there.

Playing you i am making you shoot the five. After having a feeling of already having won the game, it is an easy shot for players to dog.

If i am playing svb i would look at something else.
 

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I earlier posted that I would kick in the ten ball. I still adhere to my earlier thinking for one more reason. If you push the five ball up table, sure enough you can get it safe but you allow your opponent to pocket the ten and get some kind of angle on a bank of those three balls up table OR he can let the cueball fly into those balls after pocketing the ten and rearrange them such that he might get a better bank or a pocketable straight in shot.
 

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Whitey, Ghosty is just kidding around as usual. Especially since he knows that only Todd and I got this Wwyd right 😂.
whoah partner!

Post #17! It seems like a no brainer shot to me, like i said I would play to the rail first so i am not scratching and if I miss I'm still the fave if he get 2 balls.

Also notice I mentioned my other choice which is what ended up being the better shot.
 
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