Ghost vs. Arturo 19 wwyd

gulfportdoc

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Well, Arturo hit it perfectly. That was Nick's suggestion. In post #8, I favored thinning off the 7 rather than the 8 because kissing off the 8 puts that ball into play, which it did here. On the other hand, Arturo probably liked the CB angle available off the 8, as opposed to the 7.

But now Ghost is going to put him up table near Arturo's head pocket with nothing by Arturo's hole-- if I know that nasty specter...;)

~Doc
 

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And that's precisely why it was a relatively weak shot even though it was executed perfectly. In response to Arturo's move, he could do what you just suggested, or maybe he might want to consider, if available, the Scott Frost-style option of banking the 9 three rails and follow the CB up and down the table. Alternatively, he could bank the 9 one rail and move the CB over to Arturo's side above the side pocket.

Well, Arturo hit it perfectly. That was Nick's suggestion. In post #8, I favored thinning off the 7 rather than the 8 because kissing off the 8 puts that ball into play, which it did here. On the other hand, Arturo probably liked the CB angle available off the 8, as opposed to the 7.

But now Ghost is going to put him up table near Arturo's head pocket with nothing by Arturo's hole-- if I know that nasty specter...;)

~Doc
 

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And that's precisely why it was a relatively weak shot even though it was executed perfectly. In response to Arturo's move, he could do what you just suggested, or maybe he might want to consider, if available, the Scott Frost-style option of banking the 9 three rails and follow the CB up and down the table. Alternatively, he could bank the 9 one rail and move the CB over to Arturo's side above the side pocket.
Playing it off the 7 would have been better. It would might have opened up balls for the shooter not opponent
 

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Arturo did hit it very good from there, however I still like the 2 rail kick on the one and bringing the CB into the stack. As it is now, he has no threats on his side and as Doc pointed out, Ghost is either going to 1 rail the 9 or go off the right side of the 9 if he can see it and put Arturo up on the head rail on his side where he has no shot and is in trouble again.
 

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Leaving the 3 ball bank is not for me. Good one pocket players torture ya when you do.
 

t-dog

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The five off the three does look appealing.

The other shot that appeals to me is a two rail kick at the one ball. A fair amount of left english must be used to assure picking up the foot rail before striking the one. This will cause the cue ball to move more directly toward the stack providing a nice safety and offensive move.



Tom
I call this the Dr. Bill shot as that is who I saw post this first. Usually the cue is closer to the bottom rail and you need to jack up a little. sometime the cue goes right into the stack so you dont need to make the ball. I scream out...Billy when I hit it good and I only met him once while standing at Ballys. lol Thanks Doc.
 

Tom Wirth

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I call this the Dr. Bill shot as that is who I saw post this first. Usually the cue is closer to the bottom rail and you need to jack up a little. sometime the cue goes right into the stack so you dont need to make the ball. I scream out...Billy when I hit it good and I only met him once while standing at Ballys. lol Thanks Doc.
I'm good with that but I'll be willing to bet that shot has been around a lot longer than the good doctor. Doc. Billy's shot it is. That is as long as he wants it attributed to him. :D

Tom
 

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Now seeing what Arturo did....he's gonna get a dose real quick. The cue ball position in relation to the cut bank lies perfect.

I wouldn't like leaving that 9 ball bank shot. Not only can you bank it up/down easily short or wide but, freezing whitey to the middle of the head rail becomes a natural. I'm playin' all cue ball here.
 

Dennis "Whitey" Young

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I am hitting the left side of the 9 with left and rolling up on the 3 tight. I have now repositioned the 9 out in the center of table, cover a possible 3 into 5 combo that would reposition the 5, protected a kick into the 15 ball combo, protected a kick into a combo on the 8, and hopefully protected the 9. He now has to come off either the 3, 1, or 9 if he can see it. I have the 6 and 5 that still goes, which creates caution if he goes down table. Whitey
 

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I'm good with that but I'll be willing to bet that shot has been around a lot longer than the good doctor. Doc. Billy's shot it is. That is as long as he wants it attributed to him. :D

Tom
I am sure it has been around a long time. I only call it that as one of his posts or comments on video wised me up to it.
 

Dennis "Whitey" Young

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This shot, Chicago Fats posted on pg.3 and diagramed, but I am liking only going to side rail with 2 and contacting the 1 directly across it's face to direct it into my pocket, or if you want to be a little safer then contact the 1 slightly on it's backside or slight overcut. But either way they both drive the 1 across to my corner and the 2 clears out and angles back towards and into pack, just as C. Fats has it diagramed, it works perfectly! Draw cue ball slightly up against 12.

This shot protects my main concern, that being a return kick combo on the7 to 8 or 14-11, both maybe wired and we can not assume they are not. This also prevents a return shot of cue ball down table or the repositioning of cue ball where it once was, for the 1 is now by the pocket.

By going 1 rail with the 2 it helps eliminates the chance of the 2 being stuck there, unless you hit the shot bad and contact the 1 fat or on it's high side. Do not do this for the 2 will die there! But the shot lies perfect to go one rail into the one, and draw up against the 12.

Thanks Chicago Fats for your post, Whitey
 
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I like giving him the 2 and putting the cue behind the 1.
Xopher, in this situation, there is no reason to give your opponent a ball when you have several options to either play defensively or offensively. See these options in the post below.

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