Derby Dispatches -- Day Five.

sunnyone

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It’s one pocket time now, my favorite game. But I must admit that the 9-ball banks has really captivated me. I’m going to try to pay more attention next time around.

Gentle suggestions for the marvelous Accu-Stats crew:

> When there’s a streaming snag, viewers are directed to enter Chat. Chat requires Java, which I (and, I believe, many Apple Annies) have disabled because of malware concerns.

> Find a way to have the TV table influence the tournament schedule. It’s loopy for the most-watched venue to be dependent on the tournament desk. The tournament could schedule matches of the most interest to the most viewers. Actually, it usually doesn’t matter that much to me who is playing -- the more important consideration is to eliminate all the ‘dead air’ time on the TV table.

> Start the streaming coverage later and go later. Pool players don’t like morning matches. Viewers would appreciate after-work coverage. Again … this is similar to the above point: be viewer-centric as opposed to bowing to the arcane dictates of historical tournament practices.

> Know the rankings -- won / lost. Announcers should be able to keep ball scores / game scores. Know the won-lost status. Know the buy-in avails. Announcers should have mini-bios of each player on the TV table. It’s goofy not to know where they’re from, how old they are, how they’ve performed in this tourney and others.

> Share some inside info. Show where the announcer’s booth is in relation to the TV table. Show what was involved in moving the 10-ft. table into the arena. How cool that must have been, single slab-wise! Weight-wise!

> Find a way for the announcers to figure out which ball number is which. If I can tell -- on my little iPhone -- there must be booth-technology that can decipher this basic element. (One announcer suggested a pocket-by-pocket identifier to more precisely illustrate shot possibilities. Capital idea!)

Lord of the Rings.

I find hands interesting. They can be slender, stubby, graceful, brutish. And what better venue to observe them than on a competition blue cloth!

Michelangelo di Lodovico Buonarroti Simoni would, of course be the classic artist of choice to record and celebrate all things anatomical.

Since he’s no longer available -- by supervening reason of death -- Accu-Stats is a good preserver / chronicler of hands-on art.

Watching the Derby, one notices, yes, hands. But also fingers. And rings. Wedding bands, school rings, pinkies.

And what are rings? Symbols.

Symbols of friendship, of wealth, of fidelity.

Not that it’s important, but Niels Feijen didn’t seem to sport any digital diamonds?

Is he unencumbered by nature? By choice? By not having yet met the perfect soul mate? One wonders.

In his Scott Frost match, it seemed to me Niels was a bit adrift. Perhaps bereft of a stable familial grounding? Lonely?

Earlier in the tourney I had seen The Freezer spanked by J. J.

Scott did have one nifty 8-and-out, but he was … well, spanked.

So how to explain his night-and-day difference v. Niels?

Of course there is no one-size-fits-all answer. But didn’t Niels look a bit lonely? A tad forlorn?

Pearls. And a few questions.

Hickey -- apparently an intentional foul.

Sleep a ball -- I think this means a failure, perhaps on purpose, to spot an owed ball.

“Shoot the wrong shot perfectly and there’s no penalty.” Freddy.

“The best players do more than one thing with each shot at the opening of the game.” One pocket.

Rearrange the furniture -- move a bunch of balls from your opponents side?

“I won the match, but I was tired when I got done.” John B.

Also from John B. “The age of the cloth makes more difference than the new Diamond rails.” “Carrying an extension means needing a new case.” “Pool cases will be looking like golf bags.”

Will players be having caddies? Sherpas?

“It’s tough playing morning pool.”

“The TV table plays a lot longer.” I wonder what that means and why it’s so?

“Bank pool players are more comfortable shooting with the cue ball on the rail.”

A certain brand of chalk -- Danny D. goes two racks without chalking up.

The reason right handers usually break toward the right in one-pocket? It’s easier to reach many shots.

Why do the pockets get tighter as the tourney progresses?

High karate -- top spin. I gather this allows you to keep the cue ball close to the rail when knocking away an opponent’s ball.

When Cliff racked for one-pocket, why did he keep rearranging the order of the balls?

The ‘bite’ -- request for a temporary loan? ‘Temporary’ being iffy?

With a new cloth, playing one-pocket, if you break further from the rail, you are less likely to leak a ball.

Leak a ball -- when your one-pocket break sends a ball toward your opponent’s pocket.

Some people should not wear horizontal stripes.

I gather this applies not only for the one-pocket break, but also later in the game ... get a ball high and low -- on the side and bottom rails.

Are there shots that come up in one-pocket and no other games?

Are older players and commentators more conservative with one-pocket strategies?

There was some discussion whether Ronnie Allen or Eddie Taylor started the aggressive, offense-driven style of one-pocket.

“Scott Frost is so used to giving up 15 - 4 … he’s a ball-running machine.”

Notice how the younger players are still drinking soda? I’m happy to see that water is the predominant drink, even in that casino pool room. Of course once the day’s work is done, all bets are off! Break out the tequila!

SVB was up -- I believe -- 7 - 1 over Shannon. SVB eventually lost the game and it looked as if he never recovered. Posture, body language, general attitude, frustration shots … he just didn’t look like the fighter he usually is. (Of course that’s merely my take.)

English bank -- not, I believe referring the the British Isles. I think this is that long bank where the object ball is close to the side rail. Putting spin on the cue ball allows one to send the object ball away from the side rail, down to the end rail where the reverse English brings it back to a trajectory in the direction of one’s pocket. Or maybe not!

The first couple of TV one-pocket matches were, unfortunately, a bit of a snoozer. The Hunter v. Orcollo competition wasn’t as boring as Ike v. Darren. But it wasn’t an edge-of-the seat thriller either.



Emulating Bartleby, the Scrivener is my life,

Sunny

P. S. I bet the one-pocket Hall of Fame dinner was a blast! Maybe someday I’ll be invited!
 

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I've always been intrigued by the way you write and haven't seen it for quite some time. You musta left AZ quite awhile back but I do remember you, your perspectives of whats before us I find enthralling....
 

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It’s one pocket time now, my favorite game. But I must admit that the 9-ball banks has really captivated me. I’m going to try to pay more attention next time around.

Gentle suggestions for the marvelous Accu-Stats crew:

> When there’s a streaming snag, viewers are directed to enter Chat. Chat requires Java, which I (and, I believe, many Apple Annies) have disabled because of malware concerns.

> Find a way to have the TV table influence the tournament schedule. It’s loopy for the most-watched venue to be dependent on the tournament desk. The tournament could schedule matches of the most interest to the most viewers. Actually, it usually doesn’t matter that much to me who is playing -- the more important consideration is to eliminate all the ‘dead air’ time on the TV table.

> Start the streaming coverage later and go later. Pool players don’t like morning matches. Viewers would appreciate after-work coverage. Again … this is similar to the above point: be viewer-centric as opposed to bowing to the arcane dictates of historical tournament practices.

> Know the rankings -- won / lost. Announcers should be able to keep ball scores / game scores. Know the won-lost status. Know the buy-in avails. Announcers should have mini-bios of each player on the TV table. It’s goofy not to know where they’re from, how old they are, how they’ve performed in this tourney and others.

> Share some inside info. Show where the announcer’s booth is in relation to the TV table. Show what was involved in moving the 10-ft. table into the arena. How cool that must have been, single slab-wise! Weight-wise!

> Find a way for the announcers to figure out which ball number is which. If I can tell -- on my little iPhone -- there must be booth-technology that can decipher this basic element. (One announcer suggested a pocket-by-pocket identifier to more precisely illustrate shot possibilities. Capital idea!)

Lord of the Rings.

I find hands interesting. They can be slender, stubby, graceful, brutish. And what better venue to observe them than on a competition blue cloth!

Michelangelo di Lodovico Buonarroti Simoni would, of course be the classic artist of choice to record and celebrate all things anatomical.

Since he’s no longer available -- by supervening reason of death -- Accu-Stats is a good preserver / chronicler of hands-on art.

Watching the Derby, one notices, yes, hands. But also fingers. And rings. Wedding bands, school rings, pinkies.

And what are rings? Symbols.

Symbols of friendship, of wealth, of fidelity.

Not that it’s important, but Niels Feijen didn’t seem to sport any digital diamonds?

Is he unencumbered by nature? By choice? By not having yet met the perfect soul mate? One wonders.

In his Scott Frost match, it seemed to me Niels was a bit adrift. Perhaps bereft of a stable familial grounding? Lonely?

Earlier in the tourney I had seen The Freezer spanked by J. J.

Scott did have one nifty 8-and-out, but he was … well, spanked.

So how to explain his night-and-day difference v. Niels?

Of course there is no one-size-fits-all answer. But didn’t Niels look a bit lonely? A tad forlorn?

Pearls. And a few questions.

Hickey -- apparently an intentional foul.

Sleep a ball -- I think this means a failure, perhaps on purpose, to spot an owed ball.

“Shoot the wrong shot perfectly and there’s no penalty.” Freddy.

“The best players do more than one thing with each shot at the opening of the game.” One pocket.

Rearrange the furniture -- move a bunch of balls from your opponents side?

“I won the match, but I was tired when I got done.” John B.

Also from John B. “The age of the cloth makes more difference than the new Diamond rails.” “Carrying an extension means needing a new case.” “Pool cases will be looking like golf bags.”

Will players be having caddies? Sherpas?

“It’s tough playing morning pool.”

“The TV table plays a lot longer.” I wonder what that means and why it’s so?

“Bank pool players are more comfortable shooting with the cue ball on the rail.”

A certain brand of chalk -- Danny D. goes two racks without chalking up.

The reason right handers usually break toward the right in one-pocket? It’s easier to reach many shots.

Why do the pockets get tighter as the tourney progresses?

High karate -- top spin. I gather this allows you to keep the cue ball close to the rail when knocking away an opponent’s ball.

When Cliff racked for one-pocket, why did he keep rearranging the order of the balls?

The ‘bite’ -- request for a temporary loan? ‘Temporary’ being iffy?

With a new cloth, playing one-pocket, if you break further from the rail, you are less likely to leak a ball.

Leak a ball -- when your one-pocket break sends a ball toward your opponent’s pocket.

Some people should not wear horizontal stripes.

I gather this applies not only for the one-pocket break, but also later in the game ... get a ball high and low -- on the side and bottom rails.

Are there shots that come up in one-pocket and no other games?

Are older players and commentators more conservative with one-pocket strategies?

There was some discussion whether Ronnie Allen or Eddie Taylor started the aggressive, offense-driven style of one-pocket.

“Scott Frost is so used to giving up 15 - 4 … he’s a ball-running machine.”

Notice how the younger players are still drinking soda? I’m happy to see that water is the predominant drink, even in that casino pool room. Of course once the day’s work is done, all bets are off! Break out the tequila!

SVB was up -- I believe -- 7 - 1 over Shannon. SVB eventually lost the game and it looked as if he never recovered. Posture, body language, general attitude, frustration shots … he just didn’t look like the fighter he usually is. (Of course that’s merely my take.)

English bank -- not, I believe referring the the British Isles. I think this is that long bank where the object ball is close to the side rail. Putting spin on the cue ball allows one to send the object ball away from the side rail, down to the end rail where the reverse English brings it back to a trajectory in the direction of one’s pocket. Or maybe not!

The first couple of TV one-pocket matches were, unfortunately, a bit of a snoozer. The Hunter v. Orcollo competition wasn’t as boring as Ike v. Darren. But it wasn’t an edge-of-the seat thriller either.



Emulating Bartleby, the Scrivener is my life,

Sunny

P. S. I bet the one-pocket Hall of Fame dinner was a blast! Maybe someday I’ll be invited!


I think you are right on with those terms like the bite, sleeping balls, rearranging furniture, a ball leaking out, a ball high and low, etc. Very good. I also can't understand why they haven't figured out the tv ball colors. How many years has it been. I can easily see them with my bad eyes and no glasses on my monitor. Big John Brumback is a good commentator but he has to include a cue stick extension especially on the big foot tables. Scott was putting some shit on Niels that ajax wouldn't take off. Had him shot into a coma, but then made some errors and almost let him off, like that shot almost straight in that he hit way too easy and didn't come close to a rail. That took him out of the one hole and really hurt, but Niels gave it back. I really enjoyed that match. Wanted to see the JJ and Alex match, but I guess they changed it. Don't know what happened.
 

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Sunny, you're still my favorite ditzy doll, and as wise as Sir Thomas Tom, who "multiplied as far as four and knew what nine was taken from to make eleven". And you're still a tease, making us wait so long for enlightenment.

Here's a tip for your spectating enrichment - maybe you already know, but not everybody does. In a set of fifteen billiard balls, the color sequence that we find from the 1 ball to the 7 ball is repeated from the 9 ball to the 15 ball, giving us a head start when trying to identify them.

You're most welcome. This kind of shit is my life. :)

Bill
 

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Who's kiss is it anyway?

Who's kiss is it anyway?

And the true definition of the dreaded dbl kiss sell out when your sitting down, is the first ones for you :) and the second ones for me':eek:....I love it up close and simple.
 

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This lady has a remarkable way with words...I love reading her post. I also bet she plays a mean game of one pocket....:)
 

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hi sunneyone
bet you are glad im not posting ghosts pic of you;)
seems you have picked up some 1p knowledge..:eek:...:)
you still come off alittle high off the horse.....:sorry
just sayin
 

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And the true definition of the dreaded dbl kiss sell out when your sitting down, is the first ones for you :) and the second ones for me':eek:....I love it up close and simple.
I don't know if when you strike the OB, (every shot) that's considered a kiss. If so then I can figure out what a double kiss is.
Rod.
P.S. I have no idea what ID'S post means. I'm getting old and feeble I guess.:)
 

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At ease, Larry. She really is just one of the guys - she just talks funny. And if it ain't funny, it ain't much. :D
 

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A question, if I may....

A question, if I may....

hi sunneyone
bet you are glad im not posting ghosts pic of you;)
seems you have picked up some 1p knowledge..:eek:...:)
you still come off alittle high off the horse.....:sorry
just sayin
Sunnyone, fires off some witty and amusing directives...But, has anyone noticed something strange ?..She has never reponded, directly, to anyone !!! She has created 5 threads (one for each day, so far)...However, after over two dozen different responses...She has NOT responded to ANYONE..:confused:

Why does she avoid any intercourse with us. ;) ?... As you say Larry, she must be a little too good for us...What else could be the reason ?..No one has made any rude, or untoward advances..'Sup wi' dat ?..(maybe thats it) :rolleyes:

Super (man) Duck
 
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Sunnys definitions seem to compare to the feelings of heroine....or afterglow. :focus What were we talkin' about :confused:
 

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Well, not quite everybody loves Raymond, and that goes for Sunnyone, also. I'm not going to take up for her today, because I have no doubt she could do it in spades if she thought it needed doing. A flame war with that lady might be a whole lot like spitting on Jack Reacher's shoes. But I like Sunnyone, and I'm gonna make a few observations of my own.

Is she different from the rest of us? Yep, but then we're all different from one another (thank goodness) - she is just differenter.

Does she look down her nose at us? Probably she does, in some ways, but I would never hold that against her. I look down my nose at a lot of people, and a lot of people look down their noses at me. Big deal.

Why doesn't she respond to responses? Dick, I haven't the foggiest.

Is she a genuine fan of one pocket? I believe she is, at least in her spare time. I'm pretty sure she is not a good player, but I doubt if that bothers her. Even I might give her some weight if the occasion arose. Hell, I might give her anything she wants, within my elderly capabilities!

Is there any chance at all that Sunnyone might make an appearance at a one pocket event, such as the Derby City Classic, the Tunica meet, or such as that? I feel certain that she would, if it fit her schedule, and I think she would fit in and have a good time. Maybe incognito -

Does she go out of her way to confound us with her manipulation of the English language? Damn right she does, at every opportunity. I love it. Google and the internet are right there on the next screen, and I will try not to be confounded for too long.

Is she out of place here on Onepocket.Org? Not at all. In her infrequent stops, she contributes more than some of our members who . . . aaahh . . . post here quite often.

Anyway, Sunnyone is different. So are the rest of us.
 
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Why doesn't she respond to responses? Dick, I haven't the foggiest....Is she out of place here on Onepocket.Org? Not at all. In her infrequent stops, she contributes more than some of our members who . . . aaahh , , ,** post here quite often..
Perhaps she never looks back at previous post's..I ask, what red-blooded female, could resist my "Day One"
(post #3) >>>>> http://www.onepocket.org/forum/showpost.php?p=106590&postcount=3

V-man, I don't think she should be 'ridiculing' ** Mr. PC, And Denise..That is RUDE..They can't help it !..:eek:

Niels McDuck
 
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Well, not quite everybody loves Raymond, and that goes for Sunnyone, also. I'm not going to take up for her today, because I have no doubt she could do it in spades if she thought it needed doing. A flame war with that lady might be a whole lot like spitting on Jack Reacher's shoes. But I like Sunnyone, and I'm gonna make a few observations of my own.

Is she different from the rest of us? Yep, but then we're all different from one another (thank goodness) - she is just differenter.

Does she look down her nose at us? Probably she does, in some ways, but I would never hold that against her. I look down my nose at a lot of people, and a lot of people look down their noses at me. Big deal.

Why doesn't she respond to responses? Dick, I haven't the foggiest.

Is she a genuine fan of one pocket? I believe she is, at least in her spare time. I'm pretty sure she is not a good player, but I doubt if that bothers her. Even I might give her some weight if the occasion arose. Hell, I might give her anything she wants, within my elderly capabilities!

Is there any chance at all that Sunnyone might make an appearance at a one pocket event, such as the Derby City Classic, the Tunica meet, or such as that? I feel certain that she would, if it fit her schedule, and I think she would fit in and have a good time. Maybe incognito -

Does she go out of her way to confound us with her manipulation of the English language? Damn right she does, at every opportunity. I love it. Google and the internet are right there on the next screen, and I will try not to be confounded for too long.

Is she out of place here on Onepocket.Org? Not at all. In her infrequent stops, she contributes more than some of our members who . . . aaahh . . . post here quite often.

Anyway, Sunnyone is different. So are the rest of us.
Me thinks she's There....
 

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... Is she out of place here on Onepocket.Org? Not at all. In her infrequent stops, she contributes more than some of our members who . . . aaahh . . . post here quite often. ...
I agree, Maestro. Sunnyone is the bee's knees; the cat's meow. She is the muse of cues, and the metaphysician of position. She's certainly a fanciful and welcome addition to our grizzled old site...:cool: She can't help it if she's fallen for ole Niels...

Doc
 
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