C. Deuel vs. E. Reyes 2011 U.S. Open

Cowboy Dennis

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This layout came up several shots after the one we've been discussing. It's Efren's shot and he's down 7-4. What would you do?

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Man, Efren looks screwed here.


Nice job with the different camera views in your screenshots, Dennis.


Go for the cut? Soft, soft kick the brown stripe (side rail first)?


Punt, lol?


Dump the 12 and snuggle up behind the 7-ball? Maybe so -- at least it does two things: 1. puts another ball in play when Effie needs them all 2. you can do it without taking a scratch, and boy wouldn't Efren like it if Corey took a scratch to come off the hill. Okay, this is what I am going with -- even though the lie of balls so heavily favors Corey. As things are, it's a piss poor angle to try to move the brown stripe from here anyway.
 

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Man, Efren looks screwed here.


Nice job with the different camera views in your screenshots, Dennis.


Go for the cut? Soft, soft kick the brown stripe (side rail first)?


Punt, lol?


Dump the 12 and snuggle up behind the 7-ball? Maybe so -- at least it does two things: 1. puts another ball in play when Effie needs them all 2. you can do it without taking a scratch, and boy wouldn't Efren like it if Corey took a scratch to come off the hill. Okay, this is what I am going with -- even though the lie of balls so heavily favors Corey. As things are, it's a piss poor angle to try to move the brown stripe from here anyway.
thats my shot too.first thing i saw
 

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Man, Efren looks screwed here.


Nice job with the different camera views in your screenshots, Dennis.


Go for the cut? Soft, soft kick the brown stripe (side rail first)?


Punt, lol?


Dump the 12 and snuggle up behind the 7-ball? Maybe so -- at least it does two things: 1. puts another ball in play when Effie needs them all 2. you can do it without taking a scratch, and boy wouldn't Efren like it if Corey took a scratch to come off the hill. Okay, this is what I am going with -- even though the lie of balls so heavily favors Corey. As things are, it's a piss poor angle to try to move the brown stripe from here anyway.
thats my shot too.first thing i saw
cutting the 10 i dont see how you can not leave a shot on the 9 if you miss
soft kicking the 9 lets you live for another inning but corey will have a free bank on the 10 most likely
and you still have the 2 balls tied up that you need to win with
 

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Know how Efren plays, he would have came off the rail pocketing the 13 in his pocket leaving perfect shape on the 10 then banked one out of the cluster leaving the last ball in view to end the run. Haven't seen the vie, but interested in knowing the result as the magician would have played it.
 

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It's amazing how the pictures are so deceiving. Picture two looks like there is no safe kick on the 13 ball but picture three looks like it's pretty safe to kick it away. Or is it because the color of the cloth on the short rail blends into the color of the cloth on bed of the table?

I too would put the 12 in play and snuggle up to that solid ball.
 

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This is my shot from here....

*After looking at the second view a little more closely I really have no idea if my lines are correct as it looks like a different angle on the ten in the second picture. Regardless--> I would still shoot the same shot just send the cue ball towards a different spot on the bottom rail. I still like trying to get both balls out of there.


Dudley


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hey dennis
i know when i post a wwyd some times ive put the dvd away and someone wants a follow up shot takes some time to accomodate
but if you can (its ok if you cant)
what did corey do from here??
maybe we should ask our members what would you do from here???
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One shot I see here would be for Corey to softly kick toward the head rail, and back into the farther edge of the 7-ball, sending the cue ball softly to the side rail close by, and just nudging the 7-ball a little. It looks like the balls are so close to the rail this would be a lot easier to control than it might sound. I tried to draw this, but the shot does not involve much movement, with everything so close to the rail and each other.
 

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One shot I see here would be for Corey to softly kick toward the head rail, and back into the farther edge of the 7-ball, sending the cue ball softly to the side rail close by, and just nudging the 7-ball a little. It looks like the balls are so close to the rail this would be a lot easier to control than it might sound. I tried to draw this, but the shot does not involve much movement, with everything so close to the rail and each other.

Either that, or Corey just jacks up and banks the 7 cross-corner towards his pocket...and it looks like whitey is froze to the 7 - if so, making a legal hit is simple to execute.

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as long as the cue would stay on the back rail, i like that shot alot
 

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hey dennis
i know when i post a wwyd some times ive put the dvd away and someone wants a follow up shot takes some time to accomodate
but if you can (its ok if you cant)
what did efren do from here??
maybe we should ask our members what would you do from here???
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I think I would need an overhead view of those two balls. A quarter inch could make a lot of difference on my selection..
 

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Either that, or Corey just jacks up and banks the 7 cross-corner towards his pocket...and it looks like whitey is froze to the 7 - if so, making a legal hit simple to execute.

- Ghost
The kick seems a little better if executed correctly, however, the jacked up shot is easier to execute and just about full and foul proof.:confused::help....I like the kick.

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hey dennis
i know when i post a wwyd some times ive put the dvd away and someone wants a follow up shot takes some time to accomodate
but if you can (its ok if you cant)
what did efren do from here??
maybe we should ask our members what would you do from here???
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lll,

The link to the match is on YouTube and has been on this site in the other WWYD for almost a week. Here it is, game 7.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbDHOPnXglg[/ame]
 

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Either that, or Corey just jacks up and banks the 7 cross-corner towards his pocket...and it looks like whitey is froze to the 7 - if so, making a legal hit is simple to execute.

- Ghost
If Corey can do that and control the cue ball back there, I like that shot too. The only thing I don't like about it is that it puts all four balls in play -- and Corey only needs one. As you know, sometimes nice shots like that backfire if they don't get close enough to the hole and the opponent makes a flyer.
 

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In sales there is a saying, "Sales are usually not lost but given away." The same would be true of end game one pocket.
 
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