Archie Karas

Fatboy

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for the record archie aint a nice guy or respectful, he pissed on me one night before he got pumped up, now who's laughing......he was banned at my house in Vegas-and he was never therre, he is the only person in the poolworld that was banned. I woudnt do a damn thing for him, loser. bum

how often do i ever talk like this about anyone?

piss on Archie the Greek
 

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for the record archie aint a nice guy or respectful, he pissed on me one night before he got pumped up, now who's laughing......he was banned at my house in Vegas-and he was never therre, he is the only person in the poolworld that was banned. I woudnt do a damn thing for him, loser. bum

how often do i ever talk like this about anyone?

piss on Archie the Greek
Yikes Fatboy....never.

Ken
 

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One thing I always wondered and maybe someone on here knows, maybe Eric. I realize Archie was betting like a maniac practically everynight but whether it was $ 26.4 or $ 40 million did he gradually lose it all back or did he have one horrible run and go off for most of it in a short time?
 

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One thing I always wondered and maybe someone on here knows, maybe Eric. I realize Archie was betting like a maniac practically everynight but whether it was $ 26.4 or $ 40 million did he gradually lose it all back or did he have one horrible run and go off for most of it in a short time?
Look up Archie Karas on Wikipedia and they give you a pretty good condensed version of his rise and fall.

I talked to him in Las Vegas a couple years back and he told me he bet at least $500,000 every day for around 1 1/2 years.
 

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Look up Archie Karas on Wikipedia and they give you a pretty good condensed version of his rise and fall.

I talked to him in Las Vegas a couple years back and he told me he bet at least $500,000 every day for around 1 1/2 years.
The casino advantage and the juice would kill...

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Look up Archie Karas on Wikipedia and they give you a pretty good condensed version of his rise and fall.

I talked to him in Las Vegas a couple years back and he told me he bet at least $500,000 every day for around 1 1/2 years.


I believe he did. Great story about the cue sticks. I remember that one from a couple of years ago. Sounds like he followed in the footsteps of the one and only Nick 'The Greek' Dandolos. He spent time in Chicago also. Nick won and lost 500 million which is about five billion in todays money. Near the end of his life which was Christmas 1966, he was in Gardena very nearly broke and playing some five dollar draw. Some guy asked him how was it to be playing for such small stakes after betting all those millions. Nick replied, "It's action, isn't it?"
 

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One thing I always wondered and maybe someone on here knows, maybe Eric. I realize Archie was betting like a maniac practically everynight but whether it was $ 26.4 or $ 40 million did he gradually lose it all back or did he have one horrible run and go off for most of it in a short time?
Here's a pretty good interview with Karas:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3spwBZcTMc[/ame]

About losing the money, he says he started playing baccarat and lost 20 million in 10 days, and then lost the rest.
 

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Well, I don't know anything about him playing BlackJack, Baccarat (I thought that was crystal), or Poker or anything else but I'll say one thing for the man...he could knock the f@@k out of a horse:D.

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for the record archie aint a nice guy or respectful, he pissed on me one night before he got pumped up, now who's laughing......he was banned at my house in Vegas-and he was never therre, he is the only person in the poolworld that was banned. I woudnt do a damn thing for him, loser. bum

how often do i ever talk like this about anyone?

piss on Archie the Greek
I have heard a few things about him myself and they werent good, lol.
The guys going to get hit hard on this one, i understand hes got priors for this here in Vegas, so the judge sees that and if the casino is pushing it, bye bye.
 

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Fatboy,

Who bet a bigger percentage of their bankroll Archie or Robo?

thats a good question, from what i know ( i know more about Robo than archie-because i was in vegas for so long i know a good bit about archie too) so i aint talking out of my ass here, id say they fired at about the same rate, Perhaps Archie fired a little higher %, Robo's numbers were MUCH MUCH higher than Archie(even adjusted for inflation). I can't go into detail, but I did see some win/loss numbers form just one joint for Robo and the number for the year, the net win was HUGE, the net-not how much he won, the absolute win; minus the loss. I aint even believable its so high. But I saw it, on my mom's grave it akes Archie look like a quarter slot player with a fanny pack. It was more than my highest net worth when i was at my peak level.


I know robo 14 years and had no idea-until a couple months ago when he showed me(the statement was from several years back in a email from the casino and CC to his lawyer). I cant say more about that. I will say this, i saw win/loss statments at various casino's with Robo(i went out with him many many times and he always has 1-2 mil to put in the cage, one night 4M), to play with this is over many years in Vegas. I cant count how many times we rolled out together and the crew to play dice and just hangout, sometimes he didnt play and we would still go out for fun., he would only play for 1-2 hours-he was never a grinder. He would valet part the car with the duffel bags in the trunk with millions in it and not even care, i asked him "you know these guys" he said "no, its only money buddy...." that happened many times too. and the comps-wow private jets, rooms, you name it. girls-more than we could stand.

i will add one thing he played at nose bleed levels for about 6 years. Then the divorce and other things(slowed down his roll), he didnt lose it all back like archie. cant say more. Robo is a great person, thick or thin he has been there for many mutial friends and myself in many ways, not $$. he is kind, giving and generous with strangers. He busts balls too, he loves to talk trash in a funny way, its never boaring being with him. he is amont the top 3 best people(aside from my family) I ever met. He has more heart than anyone I ever met-including me, in all walks of life. no i aint kissing his ass-its the truth. he works hard, plays hard, rolls hard. no dope, never had a drink in his life either. He also isnt a scammer, he is honest and stand up, no dirty biz at all in his life-ever.

I aint knocking archie, he has more gamble than i ever did in a casino, i have had ALL my $$ bet a few times in life, i almost lost it all 2 years ago. I didn't, it came down to one meeting, it was a $35M swing if I didn't succeed, i held up just fine and got there. I gamble too on biz and in life, not in casino's. Robo is the biggest gambler I ever saw $$ wise and perhaps % wise. There are bigger $$ players than Robo, from Kerry Packer from Australia beat the MGM for $25.7M in one night-before archie's score. however Kerry was worth maybe a billion back then,.

Robo is also Greek, I believe Greeks are more action than Chinese or any other nationality.

I dont like archie at all, he probably dont remember me from back in the day or what he said, did to me. I am a forgive and forget kind of person, however not in this case, and he is the only person in pool, i ever didnt "make it right with" years later, I had beef's with people much worse than with archie that I am cool with now, probably someday i'll let it go. he pissed on me when i was down-bad. he was too, this was just before the "score". then after the score when he had $$ he pissed on me again-just words. no blood no foul, but for now-i want zero to do with him.



Frank I owe you a PM, i didnt forget, was in vegas past 2.5 days on biz and now back online, i'll tell you tomaro, pm you.
 
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