If successfully executed could work well. Bill, if you notice the action on the cue ball after the z bank was executed than you must agree that positioning the cue ball into the balls on the end rail was not possible. You either play the bank like he did, or look else where. Reyes just hit the bank bad, it really wasn't a bad shot. It looks to me that if the bank would of been hit accurately than the cue ball (if drawn) would be tracking toward the corner pocket, he over compensated and guarded against the scratch.
Nurse Bill
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Larry, you know the Ghost is always here for you..
...the reason that most of us aren't mentioning that shot, is because that shot doesn't have to be resorted to in this spot - since there are offensive opportunitys available....if there were no offensive opportunitys available, then kicking that striped ball away would be the very common defensive shot to be chosen here.
- Ghost
Cutting the 8 ball in for Reyes is definitely an option, but even Reyes can't disregard the angle he will be going into the stripe after contacting the 8 ball. He can go into the stripe three ways, thinly, 1/4 of the ball, or directly into the side of the ball. He can possibly get a double kiss hitting 1/4 of the ball if it is close or frozen, and he certainly won't like that. The other two ways are workable. I'm assuming he was shooting into a possible double kiss with the cue ball and decided it wasn't worth the risk. I guess he should of tried it, the way things turned out.
I agree totally, it was definitely an option, but one further down the line of others.Larry, you know the Ghost is always here for you..
...the reason that most of us aren't mentioning that shot, is because that shot doesn't have to be resorted to in this spot - since there are offensive opportunitys available....if there were no offensive opportunitys available, then kicking that striped ball away would be the very common defensive shot to be chosen here.
- Ghost
I would opt to two rail kick it out of there before attempting that shot. Rod's right on with his reasons.The reason why this shot is not one of the better options is because you have less control of the kicked ball then you need. The 8 ball is a problem ball if the kick option is chosen. If you happen to kick the stripe into the 8 ball you could possibly lose THREE balls.
Now would you like that?
and ah, excuse me, but I don't think Efren's pocket speed would be off enough for the cueball to bounce back up almost a diamond, to where your arrows have indicated it would have...
- Ghost
And just how many examples of Efrens speed being off by a diamond do you need to see to convince you that it could easily happen???
Cowboy "got all the time in the world" Dennis
(which also is an option) The other kick was the two rail kick on the 13 ball, removing it from Scott's side of the table. Sorry Larry, you were really suggesting to back kick the 13 ball using the foot rail as the first rail struck. That option is a good option, but as The Ghost said not as good as some of the other options. So when I explained why the first kick was not a good option I believe I confused people and I probably did, my bad, I was locked into what I was thinking you were saying, when I should of read your post more carefully.Good observation, especially with upper echelon players. As a rule of thumb a 2 to 1 lead in balls is not a big enough lead to change strategy, and should be treated as if the game were tied. As a rule of thumb. And your observation on why the 13 ball was good for both players was right on and also supports why Reyes chose the option that he did. By Z banking the 8 ball Reyes was thinking that if missed not only would Scott have to defend against the missed 8 ball but also against the 13 ball.
Dennis, if Reyes would of chosen the 8 ball option, and as a result the cue ball would of been double kissed by the stripe he was going into, then even a soft speed would of been a sell out.And just how many examples of Efrens speed being off by a diamond do you need to see to convince you that it could easily happen???
Cowboy "got all the time in the world" Dennis
Sorry for the confusing post #31. I was thinking Larry was referencing two different kicks. The first was the stripe to the right of the cue ball. I believed he was suggesting to back kick that stripe toward his pocket narrowly passing the 8 ball.
Billy I.